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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
December 31 1
January 6 1 1
January 9 1 1
January 14 1
February 1 1
February 3 1
February 4 1 1
February 12 1
February 14 2
February 15 2 1
February 16 2 1
February 17 2 1
February 20 2 1
February 21 2 1
February 24 3
February 25 2
February 26 2 1
February 28 2
February 29 4 1
March 1 3 3
March 2 3
March 3 4 1
March 4 7 5
March 5 2 1
March 6 2 1
March 7 5 2
March 8 4 2
March 9 5 4
March 10 5 3
March 11 6 1
March 12 4 3
March 13 6 2
March 14 5 1
March 15 6 2
March 16 8 6
March 17 4 2
March 18 8 2
March 19 13 5
March 20 7 5
March 21 9 5
March 22 13 7
March 23 8 6
March 24 9 4
March 25 8 3
March 26 12 6
March 27 13 7
March 28 10 4
March 29 10 6
March 30 17 8
March 31 10 7
April 1 11 8
April 2 11 7
April 3 16 6
April 4 14 7
April 5 12 6
April 6 11 6
April 7 12 4
April 8 12 1
April 9 4
April 10 1
Total 363 169
Last updated 02:06, 10 April 2020 UTC
Current time is 02:42, 10 April 2020 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

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How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

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How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
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    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
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How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on December 31[edit]

Cartography of Palestine (region)

Map by Pietro Vesconte, 1321.
Map by Pietro Vesconte, 1321.
  • ... that the first map of a definite country, other than copies of Roman geographer Ptolemy, was a map of Palestine (pictured)? Source: Adolf Erik Nordenskiöld (1889). Facsimile-atlas to the Early History of Cartography: With Reproductions of the Most Important Maps Printed in the XV and XVI Centuries. Kraus. pp. 51, 64.: "...the first non-Ptolemaic map of a definite country"

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 2 January 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Most of the comments especially some lengthy ones in each boxes have no sources. You need to add sources for each comment even something as simple as "Copy from 1298" either inline or as a separate notes column. See 1892 Legislative Session of the Hawaiian Kingdom. Also your bibliography from Moscrop 2000 down to Fischer 1940 are not used and are exhibiting the "Harv warning". The bibliography needs to be better organized in alphabetical order by authors. Also the caption of the first paragraph contains a lot of uncited information as well. KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:28, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

This fact, cited or not, seems rather unlikely. I mean, what about Strabo's Geographica? It maps a whole series of countries. And the Ancient Egyptians did sophisticated cadastral surveys, and we have a geological map they made in ~1150 BC; I can't imagine that no map of Egypt was ever made. I mean, there was a well-established tourist industry in Herodotus's day, and tourists who had come to see Egypt would presumably have liked to see where they had been. I haven't even started on the quite sophisticated maps often produced by non-literate cultures, which are also underrepresented by history of cartography. Even if, by defining terms really carefully, and ignoring all maps not still preserved, and being a bit Eurocentric, you were able to somehow argue this one, it's an uninformative sort of fact that needs such hard-to-imagine qualifications. The linked article also dramatically contradicts the hook, and its lede contradicts most of its content. HLHJ (talk) 04:12, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
@HLHJ: thanks for this. I could resolve your first set of points by adding the word “known” or “surviving”, but I am quite taken by your second set of points. How about this version which may generate more clicks:
It’s worded ambiguously to keep it impactful, but the point is to refer to Ptolemy’s map. It could also be plural (maps) and refer more broadly to the first ten or so maps, given that, despite a few of the maps not using the word Palestine, all the earliest maps were created during the time of Syria Palestina, Palestina Prima and Jund Filastin (see also Timeline of the name "Palestine"). Onceinawhile (talk) 03:52, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Onceinawhile. Referring to the Ptolemaian map, or the first few maps, makes sense. I'm OK with hooks that have double meanings, and the hook would certainly hook attention. In the singular "map", ALT1 is not quite cited (something that explicitly said that X was the earliest known map, or the earliest known one of which we have copies), and in the plural, it isn't cited (and the Jerome map does not seem to say "Palestine").
On citability, I think Strabo did map that area earlier, and it seems unlikely that the Romans left no record of any map of the Roman province of Judea. You might make a "first" hook work here, but it's going to be difficult; and"some of the earliest known" or "some early" has less kick. If, once you've got all the information in this article cited, you aren't sure you can support this hook adequately, then I'll be happy read through it and discuss alternate hooks again.
Separately, I think that in order to use ALT1, the article would need a brief discussion of the history of various names for this region (possibly linked to the Timeline of the name "Palestine" you linked, and Timeline of the name "Judea", and perhaps Names of the Levant -- can't see one for "Isreal"), so that people would go away informed, and not determined to complain to someone (incidentally, should the article title use "Levant", given that the scope seems to be the geographic area, not the nomenclature? Do we have a policy on this?).
I don't think it would make sense to use the 1321 map in an accompanying illustration if the hook does not mention it (the mapmaker of the 1321 map also titles it "Terra Sancta", the Holy Land, and in his Latin caption, refers to both "Cesarea Palestine" and the sons of Isreal; he was working in Venice, so this isn't surprising). Of course, this illustration isn't necessary for your proposed ALT1 hook; you could change the picture, or figure the hook is hooky enough already and leave it out. HLHJ (talk) 05:13, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: thanks for this. I’ll respond on your other points in due course, but on citability of Ptolemy I have: Nebenzahl, Kenneth (1986). Maps of the Holy Land: Images of Terra Sancta Through Two Millennia. Abbeville Press. p. 14. ISBN 978-0-89659-658-0. Cartography as we know it today begins with this spectacular map of the world at the time of Claudius Ptolemy. It sets the stage for the history of mapping the Holy Land... his work was to become the model for scientific cartography during the great revivals of mapmaking: the tenth-century Golden Age of Islam and the European Renaissance. The rediscovery of Ptolemy in the fifteenth century was particularly important for maps of the Holy Land; it ended the almost complete domination of mapmaking by Church dogma throughout the Middle Ages... Around AD 150 he produced his Geographia, the earliest known atlas of the world.
Your challenge re Strabo could be expanded to include many of the names in the list of Graeco-Roman geographers pre-Ptolemy, many if whom described the Palestine region in their writings. I would like to add a sentence on this in the article if I can find a source confirming that none of them made maps (or at least no maps that are known to us).
Onceinawhile (talk) 08:57, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Not in the least denying that Ptolemy was important. Eratosthenes might be a better counterexample than Strabo, he is known to have made maps (including all the world he knew) rather than just inspiring them, and he lived practically next door. Face-smile.svg HLHJ (talk) 04:21, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: Ptolemy’s primary source, Marinus of Tyre, lived even closer than Erastothenes. And unfortunately none of Erastothenes’ maps survived, nor did any of the maps of the great Ancient Greek cartographers. See: Wilson, Nigel Guy (2006). "Cartography". Encyclopedia of Ancient Greece. Psychology Press. p. 145. ISBN 978-0-415-97334-2. As geographical knowledge improved, various writers recorded what they believed to be the spatial relationships of territories and peoples to each other, and it is from this information that many modern historical atlases present items such as the world according to Hecataeus or Herodotus or Eratosthenes: actual ancient versions of these maps do not survive (indeed, modern versions seem to originate in the 1883 volumes of Bunbury), although there do exist Byzantine versions of Ptolemy’s maps. Onceinawhile (talk) 23:33, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: are you ok with me proceeding on this basis? Onceinawhile (talk) 10:35, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm not really OK with "earliest" or "earliest known". "Earliest surviving" might work if you can source it. "Cartography as we know it today begins with this spectacular map of the world at the time of Claudius Ptolemy. It sets the stage for the history of mapping the Holy Land" is not quite that; the phrasing is peacocky rather than factual, and does not make a falsifiable assertion. The article is still short on sourcing, and needs more context (I sometimes find the originals-and-copies history a bit hard to follow). On scope; the Palestine (region) wl article says "The boundaries of the region have changed throughout history", which is a bit lacking as operational definitions go. The scope does not seem to be limited to maps saying "Palestine" or a translation. The article seems to mention whenever a map says "Palestine" or a translation, but it is not mention when other terms are used; I'm not sure what this says about the scope. Clarification on terms would also be good: Palestine? Levant? Israel? Holy Land? What do these terms mean? Do they differ? Why was "Palestine" chosen for the article title? Obviously a full discussion would be out of place,Face-smile.svg but the article should chose an appropriate scope and define it. Some text on the cultural background of some of the mapping would also be good, and on the practical developments (why weren't the Napoleonic cartographers able to survey some areas, for instance? How did the Crusaders use maps? The Ottomans? How were maps used in religious scholarship?). Currently the article is a single-sentence defining the article topic, a list of maps (with some interesting details for some of them), and a short list of lists of maps.
Marinus is impressive, thanks for the link! HLHJ (talk) 02:58, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ: I have a few clarifications on the above while I work through it. I have added an explanation of the scope in the last two sentences in the lede, following the scope used at Cartography of Jerusalem, and have also added a column pointing out the regional names used in the maps. The article name is simply following the usage in the vast majority of maps (and written sources) during the period when these maps were made (c.150AD until c.1880AD). Does that answer your questions?
I agree with many of your other points, and intend to add them over time (I would like to get this to WP:FL). In respect of the WP:DYK nomination, please could you let me know which remaining changes you consider crucial for it to be eligible? Onceinawhile (talk) 00:21, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Apologies for the slow response, Onceinawhile, I didn't see that you'd posted here after posting below. I really did not intend to drift into reviewing this, but... KAVEBEAR mentioned sourcing; there is still unsourced content in the tables.
Neutrality is a very difficult one in an area where the name of the area is so politically contentious; here we also have to deal with historical usages ("the Levant" seems about the only modern politically-neutral name for this area, and it can historically encompass a much broader area). Logomachy is easy to laugh at, but that's human conflict. The scope is currently defined as "The cartography of the region of Palestine, also known as cartography of the Holy Land and cartography of the Land of Israel, is the creation, editing, processing and printing of maps of the region of Palestine from ancient times until the rise of modern surveying techniques" The repetition of "Palestine", sounds a bit odd, and could just as well link to, say, Holy Land (which article states "Traditionally, it [the term "Holy Land"] is synonymous both with the biblical Land of Israel and with the region of Palestine"), or Land of Israel, or Canaan, or Levant, or...
While most of the maps use variants on the term "Palestine", if anything, as a "Region name given" column interestingly but perhaps slightly pointedly points out, this is the only reason for preferring one term to another, and I'm honestly not sure if it's sufficient or not. Are there any Wikipedia precedents on this issue? I'd suggest something like "the region known variously as..." followed by a link in which all are wikilinked. There may be a more elegant neutral solution here; I have no experience dealing with this conflict point and welcome suggestions. "Modern" is defined by implication, as the latest map is 1880. After 1400 only notable maps are shown; some are wikilinked, but none are redlinked, for some reason). It also says "The article lists maps that progressed the cartography of region before the rise of modern surveying techniques, showing how mapmaking and surveying improved and helped outsiders to better understand the geography of the area. Imaginary maps and copies of existing maps are excluded.", which seems reasonable.
It seems that the article is in some ways more of a "List of pre-20th-century maps of the Levant" than "Cartography of Palestine", which I would expect to concentrate on the history of motivations and methods of mapping, surveying expeditions, and so on. The main part of the article is a quite interesting illustrated list, and I'd tend to think of it as a list article. The text is now long enough, if a bit wordy Face-smile.svg. I'm not sure that qualified-first is a promising direction for a hook; could you make some more hook suggestions? "For several centuries during the Middle Ages it [the Holy Land, according to the source] was the most prominent subject in all of cartography" needs globalizing, but material from that quote might be a good topic. HLHJ (talk) 04:04, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi @HLHJ:, thanks very much for taking the time to look at this again. I will try to address your comments one-by-one:
  • Sourcing in tables - I will go through and add one source per row
  • A neutral name - this question has been discussed ever since Wikipedia came into being, albeit the last few years have seen stability. With respect to other terms, it states at Palestine (region): “The region comprises most of the territory claimed for the biblical regions known as the Land of Israel, the Holy Land or Promised Land, and represents the southern portion of wider regional designations such as Canaan, Syria, ash-Sham, and the Levant”. The Israeli government has historically worked to discredit the term Palestine, and where the term “Israel” is impossible to apply they encourage the replacement of Palestine with “Holy Land” (the source you referred to above is a description of a collection which had been donated to the National Library of Israel). For most of the history of scholarly works on the subject of this article, Palestine was the only word used in the context of documenting the pre-modern maps of the region (see Tobler, Röhricht and Fischer, mentioned in the last paragraph of the lead). In terms of consistency within Wikipedia, it is not perfect, as we still have some duplication (see e.g. History of Palestine and History of Israel which cover the same topic), but we have broad consensus with articles which are related only to pre-1948 (when Israel came into being) such as Demographic history of Palestine (region) and Travelogues of Palestine. We don’t use other terms, except for pre-history articles, as they are equally “non-neutral”. So if we want to follow precedent within Wikipedia, we have a binary choice between Israel and Palestine in the title.
  • List - yes it is intended to be a list article (as is Cartography of Jerusalem), and over time it is intended that the Comments column fully incorporates the “history of motivations and methods of mapping” (again as does the Jerusalem article). The Cartography topics in wikipedia are not particularly consistent so far, but I am trying to inspire improvement.
  • Hook - I agree perhaps easier to go for a slightly less challenging hook. How about something like “the first list of maps of Palestine was published more than 150 years ago”?
Onceinawhile (talk) 23:28, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
If that's the consensus choice, then "Palestine" seems reasonable. I now see Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists doesn't actually say you need "List" in the heading, and we don't have a prose article on the cartography of the region, and could split it off if we develop one. I've re-categorized the article class on the talk page as "list" accordingly. It does seem a bit silly to require a cite for the existence, author, and date of creation of a map we have an entire article about; this is all readily verifiable without an in-article citation. Unless someone objects, I think rows like "Van de Velde map" could be excused a lack of citations. Many rows also have decent cites through the image pages, but unfortunately I don't think we can expect that all readers will know that. Statements like "the first printed atlas in the Ottoman Empire" are the ones that really need cites. Your hook idea sounds good, Onceinawhile. HLHJ (talk) 02:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg For some reason, the original review failed to note that the article does not meet the minimum of 1500 prose characters required for such an article. Note that text in tables and lists do not count toward the prose total; this article has had 724 prose characters since its initial review on January 4, under half the minimum requirement of 1500 prose characters, and still has that number two months later. Onceinawhile, this is a show-stopper, even beyond the issues raised by HLHJ (for which I'm sorry you weren't pinged), which themselves seem to be significant. Unless you think you can address both of these issues (though perhaps they could be done together), it might be best to withdraw the nomination. Thanks, and sorry for the bad news. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Apologies for not pinging. I did not notice that either. Thanks to BlueMoonset for pointing that out. HLHJ (talk) 03:15, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks both. I will try to fix this soon. The "sister article" Cartography of Jerusalem is on the front page today. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:27, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: I have now expanded the article to well over the required prose limit. Thank you for the prompt. I have also incorporated the sources which @HLHJ: and I discussed above, such that the proposed hook is now cited. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:15, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
I will now work on the rest of the points raised by HLHJ. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:33, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Onceinawhile, HLHJ, where does this review now stand? There hasn't been a post here since late March, and the article hasn't been edited since March 17. The nomination is over three months old and the oldest one remaining; it's time to start wrapping this up. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:31, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 6[edit]

2020 Jawaharlal Nehru University attack

  • ... that Congress party described the Jawaharlal Nehru University attack as "state-sponsored terrorism", resembling those during the Nazi rule? Source: "Congress describing the rampage by masked goons as an example of "state-sponsored terrorism" reminiscent of Nazi rule." (source link )
    • ALT1:... that Deepika Padukone was subjected to massive criticism by members of the ruling BJP after her visit to stand in solidarity with the victims of the Jawaharlal Nehru University attack? Source: "After her visit to JNU, the actor was at the receiving end of immense criticism from members of the ruling BJP including Tajinder Bagga, who urged people to boycott her film." (Source: link [1])
    • ALT2:... that Deepika Padukone's visit to stand in solidarity with the victims of the Jawaharlal Nehru University attack was praised for standing up against a crackdown on dissent? Source: "as well as praise for being a rare Bollywood A-lister to stand up against a crackdown on dissent." (Source: [2])
    • ALT3:... that two police cases were filed against a victim of the Jawaharlal Nehru University attack? Source: "Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU) students' union president Aishe Ghosh was named in two police cases filed in a span of four minutes on Sunday evening, shortly after she was taken to hospital bleeding from a brutal attack by a masked mob." (Source: [3])

Created by DBigXray (talk). Self-nominated at 18:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC).

  • @DBigXray: This is not a review but that hook is not acceptable as it is not neutral. We can't use an opposition party statement blaming an incident on a government especially with such inflammatory language as the above. Please consider offering another which has a more neutral point of view. Cowlibob (talk) 01:43, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
I have added 3 Alts. DBigXray 14:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed, including of the ALT hooks. (I have struck the original one per Cowlibob.) BlueMoonset (talk) 01:55, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg The nominator was indefinitely blocked earlier this month and then retired with a renamed username (hence the user and user talk are now redlinks), and when I queried at WT:DYK as to whether this should be continued or closed, the response was that the article needed significant work still, so I'm marking this for closure. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:35, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
BlueMoonset, the user wasn't blocked indefinitely. This review process can still continue and the article sorted out as needed. DTM (talk) 08:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg new review requested. edit: I will try making whatever changes are needed. DTM (talk) 08:26, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
This is not a full review, but I do have a couple questions. The current introduction mentions the BJP, which is not defined and people not from India would be unfamiliar with it as a political party. The introduction also makes no mention of any possible motives or causes for the attack. Some general comments on the hooks: While Deepika Padukone a known actress in India, she may not be a household name in the rest of the world, the ALT1 and ALT2 hooks offer little insight as to why she might have been involved. ALT3 seems counter-intuitive. Flibirigit (talk) 23:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
1. I have linked and expanded BJP in the lead for clarity.
2. Possible motives or causes for the attack in the introduction.  Working
Added a line to the lead. Done DTM (talk) 12:32, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
3. Hooks.  Working
DTM (talk) 08:16, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the progress so far. Flibirigit (talk) 02:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Regarding the hooks, I do intend to propose one or two more, but for now, I have cut ALT1 and ALT2. You have written "ALT3 seems counter-intuitive". Does that mean ALT3 wouldn't do as a hook? DTM (talk) 13:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • My opinion on ALT3 is that it needs more context. It is confusing to me without more information. Some other suggestions for the article, are to have the citations appear in numerical order when there is more than one in a row. The article seems to be inconsistent in applying MOS:LQ. These are not DYK failures, but friendly suggestions. Flibirigit (talk) 04:42, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • The numerical order of the citations has been sorted and I have done a minor copyedit of the entire article, also trying to follow MOS:LQ.
ALT4: ... that St. Stephen's College, an elite Indian university, for the first time in 30 years, boycotted classes and came out to protest against the Jawaharlal Nehru University attack?
ALT4a: ... that students from St. Stephen's College, for the first time in 30 years, boycotted classes and came out to protest the recent attacks on universities in India including the Jawaharlal Nehru University attack? Source:St Stephen's College students boycott classes to protest CAA, NRC and JNU attacks; first such demonstration since 1990, a senior teacher at the college, said the last time students had actively boycotted classes was during the 109-day-long strike by DU teachers in 1982-83.
DTM (talk) 03:07, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg thanks for the updates and alternate hooks. I will start a review shortly. It's a lengthy read, it make take a couple days to digest everything. Flibirigit (talk) 03:57, 4 April 2020 (UTC)


Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - ?
  • Interesting: Red XN - ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Article began on January 5, and nominated the next day, therefore it is new enough. Length is adequate. Please see questions below for sourcing, and usage of quotes. Proper attribution is given on the talk page for information split from another article into this one. Article appears to be neutral and balanced, but there are some weasel words that should be removed. QPQ requirement is met. No photo is used in this nomination, and images in the article are properly licensed. The proposed hooks are likely to generate more interest in St. Stephen's College, than the attack on the university. I suggest rewording the hooks to focus more on the attack, such as how the attack led to another event. Flibirigit (talk) 04:24, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Questions
  1. In the first paragraph of the "Background" section, what is the source for "The semester registration with the increased fee was started by 1 January"?
  2. In the first paragraph of the "Investigation" section, what is the source for "No arrests have been made in the case as of 31 January"?
  3. In the "Questions raised over the police investigation" section, what is the source for "The article also questioned whether police were conducting a fair and unbiased investigation"?
  4. The section "Reality of FIRs and CCTV footage" is more than two thirds direct quotes. Some of the information should be summarized instead.
  5. The articles uses a lot of acronyms. Some are not defined at all. Is it possible to remove a few? For example CCTV could just be "camera".
Questions 1/2/3 addressed. Question 4 has been attempted. If more needs to be done on 4 please let me know. Question 5, some of the acronyms have been addressed.
ALT4b: ... that following the Jawaharlal Nehru University attack, students from St. Stephen's College, for the first time in 30 years, boycotted classes to protest?
Source:St Stephen's College students boycott classes to protest CAA, NRC and JNU attacks; first such demonstration since 1990, a senior teacher at the college, said the last time students had actively boycotted classes was during the 109-day-long strike by DU teachers in 1982-83.
ALT5: ... that an attack on Jawaharlal Nehru University was triggered by protests against a 150% fee hike?
Source: The university blamed the attack on a "group of students" opposing an ongoing admission process to register new students. It is widely believed that the statement referred to leftist students who have been protesting against the fee hike. (BBC) Officials had defended the 150% fee hike, saying it was "too subsidised". (BBC) Weeks of protest: On Monday, as hundreds of JNU students marched towards the Indian parliament in New Delhi, they were stopped and baton-charged by the police and paramilitary forces. Around 100 of them were also detained by the police.(Aljazeera)
DTM (talk) 12:13, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the changes, there has been substantial improvement. Sourcing issues have been addressed. The last paragraph of the "FIRs and closed-circuit camera footage" section is almost verbatim with the source. In ALT4b, the phrase "an elite Indian university" is subjective, and not supported in the corresponding "University and student protests" section in the article. The relevant sentence to support the hook contains the redundancy "In a rare instance on 8 January, for the first time in the last 30 years". I suggest removing "In a rare instance" since that is also subjective. ALT5 is catchy, and verified in the cited source, but I cannot find the phrase "150% fee hike" in the 2020 Jawaharlal Nehru University attack article. I see fee hikes in the background section, but not a percentage. Did I miss it somewhere? Flibirigit (talk) 08:10, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
"FIRs and closed-circuit camera footage" section checked for close paraphrasing. Suggestions to remove subjective phrases done.
I have added "150% fee hike" in to the article. DTM (talk) 10:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks for the changes. Approving ALT4b and ALT5. Preference for ALT5. Both are verified with the provided sources, interesting to a broad audience, and properly cited inline. Article appears to adhere to all other DYK criteria. Flibirigit (talk) 01:13, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 14[edit]

Callaghan MacCarty, 3rd Earl of Clancarty

  • ... that Callaghan MacCarty left his life as a Catholic monk in France and converted to Protestantism to become the third Earl of Clancarty? Cokayne 1913, p. 216, line 7: "He was formerly monk in France, but, on his accession to the title, conformed to the established religion ...", Cokayne 1913, p. 216, line 9: "... he d. 'out of the communion of the Church of England.'"
    • ALT1:... that Callaghan MacCarty converted from Catholicism to Protestantism in order to become Earl of Clancarty, but died a Catholic? Cokayne 1913, p. 216, line 7: "He was formerly monk in France, but, on his accession to the title, conformed to the established religion ...", Cokayne 1913, p. 216, line 9: "... he d. 'out of the communion of the Church of England.'"
    • ALT2:... that Callaghan MacCarty left his life as a Catholic monk in France to become the third Earl of Clancarty? Cokayne 1913, p. 216, line 7: "He was formerly monk in France, but, on his accession to the title, conformed to the established religion ..."
  • Reviewed: As I have less than 5 DYK's, I am opting not to review.

Converted from a redirect by Johannes Schade (talk). Nominated by CaptainEek (talk) at 00:28, 16 January 2020 (UTC).

  • Review in progress. ミラP 17:58, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Although this was converted into a redirect the day before nom, has 3673 b of prose, and there are hooks interesting, the hooks barely fail WP:POSA and, most importantly, article has sourcing gaps and I'm not sure if the timeline is encyclopedic. Can somebody help CaptainEek and Johannes Schade fix them? ミラP 18:04, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
  • ??? You mean from a redirect, surely. What WP:POSA issues do you see? The (hidden) timeline looks fine to me, & isn't really a DYK issue. Sourcing seems ok for DYK. Johnbod (talk) 20:42, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
@Johnbod: Sorry, forgot to respond. Original hook looks fine. But everything in timeline needs sources or you can remove the timeline altogether. ミラP 14:28, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm not doing anything - just drive-by comments. But these don't sound like DYK issues to me. After 6 weeks I think a new reviewer might be a good idea. Johnbod (talk) 14:58, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
@Johnbod: Fine. I'll leave this to another reviewer. ミラP 15:02, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg see above. Johnbod (talk) 15:12, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I unfortunately do not have time to do a full review right now, but I think the original hook sounds interesting and does provide some astonishment. It's not that common for Catholic monks to convert to another religion right? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:44, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, Right you are, especially not in the 1600s, let alone converting back again at the end of their life. Very unusual. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 00:57, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review still needed. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:31, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
    • Symbol question.svg Miraclepine is currently indefinitely blocked from editing, and as no one else has picked up reviewing this since then, I'll be continuing their review. I am noting their size and creation check. Earwigs is slow so I can't check for close paraphrasing. The wording of the article also sounds a bit strange to me, but I'm not sure if this is just an ENGVAR issue. There are also certain words in the article that don't seem encyclopedic, such as "sadly". In the paragraph which has the sentence By this advancement the title of viscount..., does the footnote at the start reference the whole paragraph? If that were the case, I would suggest moving the footnote to the end. No QPQ needed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:31, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
      • @Narutolovehinata5:, Thanks for taking a look! I have gone through and given the article a copyedit, hopefully that clears up most issues. I have also put that footnote in the right place. Let me know if there are further issues, I know the wording is a bit odd in places, I think that's because some of it is from some archaic sources which use...stranger versions of English than we now do. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 19:30, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
The article looks a lot better now, although I think it could still use one more copyedit since some paragraphs and sentences are a bit hard to read. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:38, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
  • You can always submit the article for a copyedit to the Guild of Copy Editors, which is currently holding a copyediting drive through the end of the month, so it could receive an independent copyedit by then. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:28, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, Oh yes! I had forgotten to do so, I'll put a request up at GOCE. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 04:23, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
I was disappointed to see that the article has still not been added to the GOCE Requests page, so I did so myself. Unfortunately, the backlog has grown quite a bit, so it will probably take three to four weeks before someone gets to it. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:23, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 1[edit]

Susan Sweney

Susan Sweney
Susan Sweney
  • ... that fascist broadcaster Susan Sweney (pictured) was "many times drowned"?
  • ALT1:... that British fascist in Germany, Susan Sweney, (pictured) was suspected by the Gestapo of spying for the Allies?
  • ALT2:... that Second World War fascist Susan Sweney (pictured) was jailed by both the Germans and the British?
  • ALT3:... that after Susan Sweney (pictured) was shipwrecked during the Second World War, she cursed the crew who rescued her so much that they nicknamed her "the devil's roast"?

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 23:24, 4 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, new enough, well-cited (though some require a subscription). QPQ provided as well, no copyvio issues. I say ALT2 is the most interesting hook, but I'd word it as:
  • ALT2a:... that World War II fascist Susan Sweney (pictured) was jailed by both the Germans and the British?"
ALT3 is sufficient as well. Only holding back approval due to your comment; is your "tidying" done? Let me know what you think through a ping. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 14:33, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I still have some to add and I hope to source a better version of the picture in a few days. I have added "both". Incidentally, she was shipwrecked by them both too which must make her unique as being shipwrecked and jailed by both sides. I haven't yet thought of a good way of putting that in a hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 15:40, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Philafrenzy, it's been over a month since this was nominated, which is lots of time for tidying. Any idea how soon this will be ready? BlueMoonset (talk) 04:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: It appears that Philafrenzy made several edits to the article over the course of a few days, ending on February 29th. Did those edits address the concerns? Also pinging the reviewer Nice4What. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:14, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I will check over it today and say whether I think it is done. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:18, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Ready for new review. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 13:06, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
I have just re-read it. I think it is ready. BTW I think the image is an integral part of the nom as she looks so innocent which contrasts nicely with the hooks. The haircut is the key feature. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:05, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

  • My mistake. --evrik (talk) 19:48, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT1a:... that during the Second World War, fascist Susan Sweney (pictured) was shipwrecked of often she referred to herself as"many times drowned"?
  • ALT2b:... that during the Second World War, fascist Susan Sweney (pictured) was jailed by both the Germans and the British?"
  • ALT3a:... that fascist broadcaster Susan Sweney (pictured) was shipwrecked twice during World War II?
  • ALT3b:... that shipwrecked broadcaster Susan Sweney (pictured) was nicknamed "the devil's roast" by her rescuers due to the verbal abuse she gave them?

  • For someone to look at the review. That's why I used the Symbol redirect vote 4.svg template. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 21:24, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • @Evrik: Are you not the second reviewer? You should be able to pass this... Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 14:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Okay. I'm approving Alt2a, and offering Alt3a as an alternate for the promoter. --evrik (talk) 21:31, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

  • What is wrong with the original hook that she was "many times drowned"? It's pithy and curious. (Also we should use Second World War rather than World War II as that is more normal in a British English article) Philafrenzy (talk) 21:42, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I know, but we regularly use Second World War instead in hooks with British English. Philafrenzy (talk) 05:49, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm withdrawing my approval and offering up a couple of more hooks. --evrik (talk) 16:29, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed for the various hooks. This supersedes the tick to indicate the withdrawn approval (tick icon has been restored per DYK norms). BlueMoonset (talk) 20:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 3[edit]

Alfredo Hueck

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 02:54, 3 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I could probably assume good faith for the Spanish-language sources, but generally the article reads like promotional material riddled with peacocky language instead of an encyclopedic entry. The sources I can read seem problematic too, e.g. this entry is not significant coverage of Hueck by any means -- he is merely listed as editor, so it would be as good as simply linking to the movie's IMDb page... Other links like the indiegogo and vimeo ones similarly do not establish notability. I would recommend that we do away with such links Cheers Kingoflettuce (talk) 11:42, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Really? I wrote it as a career overview, one that I thought was a bit weak but good for DYK. Not all sources need to have sigcov nor establish notability, you've just cherrypicked. There's no reason why his main coverage being in Spanish means he's not notable. Those sources you want to get rid of are sourcing things, would you rather it have ref tags? Hollywood Reporter is more RS than IMDb, you know.
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Someone following DYK criteria to review, please. Kingsif (talk) 19:47, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Afraid you are very much misunderstanding/mischaracterising whatever I have said, Kingsif. I never once said that the "main coverage being in Spanish means he's not notable"; in fact, I was willing to assume good faith! Your Hollywood Reporter "citation" is pointless and doesn't establish an iota of notability. Anybody who understands notability guidelines will agree... As for the stuff I can read and fully understand, I maintain that there is still far too much fluff for this to run. Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:30, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg There hasn't been any comments here since February, a review is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough. Hook cited, however, the hook is rather bland and should be redone. perhaps include the rest of the information in the sentence. Prose is clunky and needs to be copy edited. The lead is very short. --evrik (talk) 05:24, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I've expanded the lead a little and will copy edit later. I wonder about the hook - the rest of the sentence would make it long, and would explain away the mystery and quirkiness. Any other suggestions? Kingsif (talk) 16:04, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Alt1 ... that Venezuelan film editor and director Alfredo Hueck became interested in film after learning how to set up his family's Betamax player? --evrik (talk) 20:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg ALT1 sounds better and the article looks a lot less promotional. The issue right now is that the paragraph that the source referencing ALT1 appears not at the end of the sentence itself (which is actually a bit long and could probably use a copyedit), but the paragraph that includes it. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I also see how evrik's alt1 is an improvement; added the ref and edited the paragraph. Kingsif (talk) 18:04, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 12[edit]

Early Swallows

  • ... that the 2019 Ukrainian teen drama Early Swallows was the first Ukrainian TV show that portrayed teen LGBT identity?
    • ALT1:... that 2019 Ukrainian teen drama Early Swallows has been praised for making issues that are rarely dealt with in Ukraine in public debatable?
    • ALT2:... that 2019 Ukrainian teen drama Early Swallows was responsible for a 600% increase calls to a helpline?
    • ALT2a:... that 2019 Ukrainian teen drama Early Swallows was responsible for a 600% increase calls to a mental health helpline?

Source: Ukraine's teen bullying drama that shattered taboos and stirred a nation, BBC News (12 February 2020)

Created by Yulia Romero (talk). Self-nominated at 19:48, 12 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg ALT0 and ALT2 are really good hooks. However, right now the article is just over 1300 characters long, which is below the 1500 character requirement for DYK. The nomination cannot move forward until the article is expanded further. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:12, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
I just extended the article with (among others) a source found on Ukrainian Wikipedia. Hope it is long enough now, otherwise I am afraid it has to be extended with fluffy information.... Glad to hear that others find the TV show an interesting subject. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 01:34, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
I have expanded the article even more since 13 February 2020 Face-smile.svgYulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:11, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Apologies for the late reply, but the article looks a lot better now. However, I'd still suggest that it be given a copyedit to make it read better. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:16, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks and apologies from me also..... for the late reply. As you may have noticed..... I have not got the time currently for Wikipedia related matters Twemoji 1f623.svg and editing (and I expect that my "real world" situation will keep it that way.....)..... So I am hoping that somebody else will be so kind to copyedit Early Swallows..... or that the article will have its DYK in its current form (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.).... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 22:00, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I have just requested a copyedit for the article from the Guild of Copy Editors. They've developed a bit of a backlog, so it may take a few weeks for them to get to it and complete it. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
BlueMoonset, Face-smile.svg Thank you. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:35, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that the copyedit by the GOCE has been completed. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:09, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The article now reads better, but certain statements could still be rephrased. For example, there's a stray parenthesis in "title is a reference to the belief swallows are the first signs of spring.)"; in addition, that information could probably be moved to the "Production" section instead of being in the lede. The sentence that goes "It has been a local surprise hit" could probably be moved to the end of the lede or before the part about the ratings: usually in lede sections of television programs, broadcasting information and synopses go before reception.
As for DYK concerns, I was not able to find close paraphrasing, the article meets DYK requirements for newness and length, and a QPQ has been provided. As I mentioned in my preliminary review above, ALT0 and ALT2 are the best hooks. ALT2 is cited to a BBC source and I verified that the information is there (I'm not sure about this, but it might be a good idea to specify in the hook that it was a mental health helpline, though it's up to you). ALT0 is also mentioned by the BBC source, although as far as I can tell its hook fact is never explicitly mentioned in the article. Once the issues with ALT0, wording, and structure are addressed, the nomination will be good to go. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:44, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Narutolovehinata5, I have taken care of the stray ")". As Yulia Romero retired at the end of March, I don't think we can look to any edits from her. I have struck ALT0 because the BBC source says pretty much the first time that adolescent LGBT identity had been portrayed on Ukrainian TV, which is too vague to support that hook; I haven't bothered to add the specific information to the article. As for your other concerns, the moving and reordering of statements in the lede is not part of the DYK criteria. The prose is fine, and the current order makes sense; there is no requirement at DYK that we meet WikiProject norms for lede order. If you prefer a particular order, you are welcome to move things around; to my mind, the title's origin does not fit in the Production section as it is currently written, which is why I didn't move it in my edits. I have added ALT2a which includes "mental health" before "helpline". BlueMoonset (talk) 01:20, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Just for clarification: although the nominator placed a retirement message on her talk page at the end of March, she has edited as recently as April 8. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:31, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
It looks like Yulia Romero has been editing the article this morning, and addressed one of the issues along with making a number of other changes. I would appreciate it if you would complete your review at this time, keeping in mind the actual DYK criteria. Or, if you prefer, I can ask for a second opinion on whether the structural issues you raise should prevent a DYK from being approved. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I have not totally disappeared from Wikipedia these days.... Twemoji 1f607.svg, partly because of keeping an eye what happened to my nomination here (and some recent developments in my "area of editing interest"). Baffle gab1978, BlueMoonset & Narutolovehinata5, Face-smile.svg Thank you. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:50, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I also just changed the lead in line with recommendations by Narutolovehinata5 plus added a "Rating"-section. Apparently ratings were lower then expected judging by the BBC article about the show. Although a rating of about 7.5% does not look bad to me (since Ukrainian cable TV usually has about 50 channels to choice from....), nevertheless I tweaked the wording a bit to emphasise it was a "surprise local hit" according to the BBC because of its content. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:44, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I would prefer ALT1 to become the hook. It is supported by English language sources and a lot stronger then the other hooks proposed.... ALT1 does more to excite the Wikipedia main page visitor to read the article then the other proposed hooks in my humble opinion. And yes, ALT0 is a bit of a questable statement.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC))

Articles created/expanded on February 14[edit]

Salgo v. Leland Stanford Jr. University Board of Trustees

  • Comment: I'm launching this for the student and instructor to help ease them through the process, this should count as one of their grace nominations.

Created by Aliylo (talk). Nominated by Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) at 20:19, 19 February 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The article was new enough to mainspace when nominated and is easily long enough (~9,000 characters) and otherwise eligible. The article's claims are supported by suitable citations; I'll assume good faith with regard to the paywalled sources, which are substantially supported by the ones I can access. An additional citation is needed. The content is presented in an appropriately neutral fashion, without e.g. taking one litigant's side. I don't see any signs of plagiarism from online sources; the high-scoring hits on the Earwig tool are all matches on the names of cases and institutions and other stock phrases not easily paraphrased. The hooks are both supported by citations, and ALT1 is the more interesting.

A good guideline is to try to include some sort of citation for each paragraph of text, so the article needs to make clear the source for the second paragraph of "History". Wikipedia style frowns on including external links in the prose body of an article (except in citations), so you can just cut the sentence in "Hospital Visit/ Procedure" that reads "More details of the procedure can be found here."

This is close to meeting the standard! A little work and it should be able to run at DYK. Bryan Rutherford (talk) 18:10, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Ski-BASE jumping

  • ... that the ski-BASE jump in the opening scene of the Bond film The Spy Who Loved Me was filmed only once due to weather and technical restrictions? Source: Telegraph

Moved to mainspace by Snakey123 (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 09:15, 15 February 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - Not that hooky. Lots of dramatic movie stunts are only filmed once. If I may be so bold, how about (alt 1) "... that ski-BASE jumping pioneer Shane McConkey died when he couldn't release his skis before deploying his chute?" Morbid, but quite dramatic, and goes along with the "dangerous sport" line in the article lead. Or some other; I'm not bound to this one, and the article is full of dramatic facts. For example, if you're set on the Bond movie, how about (alt 2) "... that the first ski-BASE jump was performed only four years before one was used in the opening scene in The Spy Who Loved Me?"
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Repeated uses of the same reference should be combined; see Wikipedia:Citing sources#Repeated citations. GRuban (talk) 16:02, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

GRuban, it's not me you should be contacting, it's @Snakey123:. I just nominated it for him as he asked me to. Personally I think the original hook is fine as the Bond element will bring people in. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:13, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
I contacted you both just in case, and suggested an alternative Bond hook, that will hopefully bring in even more people. Face-smile.svg. --GRuban (talk) 16:23, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

The reviewer is demanding a citation for facts that they have already seen have a citation elsewhere in the article. If I may say so, that is the height of pedantic pickiness. I am tired of reminding people that Wikipedia guidelines do not require that every sentence has a little blue number (although more and more editors are demanding it). Even the GA criteria don't require it. SpinningSpark 16:20, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

The DYK criteria, however, explicitly require one inline citation per paragraph. Thus spake the template that we're recommended to use, Template:DYK checklist:

"|sourced = <!---Does the article contain at least one citation to a reliable source for each paragraph and direct quote?--->"

If you want to remind people, find either the author of this template or the person who added it to the "review a DYK page" and remind them. I don't make this stuff up, I just follow it. --GRuban (talk) 17:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Well to be pedantic myself, that is a template, not the actual rules, and a bulleted list item does not amount to a paragraph. There is no cite per paragraph requirement in the actual rules, and even the supplementary rules only describe it as a "rule of thumb" not an actual requirment, so you are free to use your judgement. SpinningSpark 18:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
In other words, don't do what they tell you, use your own judgment and do what I tell you? Face-smile.svg Lookit. It's been a month. The missing cites is only one of two issues with the nomination. Neither one of the original nominators care to fix either, so I suspect they will also not mind if someone else does. If you are interested in fixing them, I'll be all too glad to accept, and we'll have a fine DYK; fixing both issues will likely take less time and effort than that you have expended here. But otherwise, please stop disparaging my judgment as Paris said to Agamemnon.--GRuban (talk) 19:59, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

I am the original author and I’m happy for it to be changed to the Shane Mcconkey death point! I think the original stunt point is definitely hooky enough but if people do not agree then perhaps it should be changed? --— Preceding unsigned comment added by Snakey123 (talkcontribs) 01:04, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

That's great, Snakey! Thanks for writing back. So, here's what you need to do. I'll number the points for easy reference.
0: In general, not just here, when you're writing something from yourself, on a talk page or in a discussion like this one, ‎you want to sign and date your post, by adding four tildes, like this : ~~~~ I like to add a pair of dashes before them, but that's just me, many other people don't. The four tildes are definitely recommended.
1: Go to the article Filmography section, find the two bullet pointed paragraphs that don't have a citation, and add a citation to each that backs up what they say.
2: Pick the hook you want, I suggested two, but you can put the one you like in your own words or even another one, there are many possible one, write it here. Yes, I'm afraid I don't think "the stunt was only performed once" is sufficiently hooky, since plenty of stunts are only performed once; "only a few years after being performed ever it was used prominently in a major movie" seems much more rare.
2.5: Optional, but recommended: as described in Wikipedia:Citing sources#Repeated citations, add a "name=" to your ref tags, and reuse the repeated ones, to make your "References" section much neater.
When you've done all that, say so, and I'll happily put a little green check mark, and this article will be in line to get its hook on the front page for a day. Thanks for your contribution! --GRuban (talk) 12:54, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 15[edit]

Le Concert Spirituel

  • Reviewed: Hebrides Terrace Seamount
  • Comment: The article had a crazy history, developed independently by two users here, and one there, and merged. Users listed in chronological order.

Created by LouisAlain (talk), Gerda Arendt (talk), and Mccapra (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 11:07, 21 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Reviewing... Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 20:25, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Expanded 5x, I couldn't see any dodgy copyvios. Might I suggest the paragraphs should be merged a bit? QPQ done. Might I suggest the hook is a little wordy, and could be cut a bit? The hooky bit is that it was played with 18 oboes and a band, perhaps not that they focus on French sacred music, which could be gleamed from the prose in the article? Other than that, good to go. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 20:30, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
    Thank you! Well, English music is not their normal thing to play, as their name suggests. We could drop that HIP clause. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I am confused about the hook wording. Do you want to say:
  • ALT0a: ... that Le Concert Spirituel, an ensemble focused on French sacred music and opera, played Handel's open-air music at The Proms with 18 oboes and a band to match?
  • But there is no citation for the ensemble performing sacred music. And the first paragraph under Recordings lacks a cite.
  • Personally, I think there is too much going on in this hook. If they play sacred music and opera, why are we mentioning Handel? I think it would be more interesting to talk about the ensemble, like:
  • ALT1: ... that Le Concert Spirituel, founded in 1987, revives the French repertoire played at the court of Versailles, using period instruments?
  • As there is no citation for the period instruments part, that could be left off the hook as needed. Yoninah (talk) 23:49, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
Trying to absorb:
ALT2: ... that Le Concert Spirituel, an ensemble focused on reviving music performed at the court of Versailles, played Handel's open-air music at The Proms with 18 oboes and a band to match?
I think we need to say "performed" vs. "played" as at least a hint that they mostly sing, not only play. Link to the court perhaps? Years are normally not hooky, and "revive" more or less includes the historically informed way, - how else would one revive? "sacred" would be supported by most titles in their recordings, but is a bit of an ambiguous word, so let's do without. As the reviewer noted, the 18 oboes are hooky - 2 is normal - so should not be left out. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Gerda Arendt: but your ALT2 hook is still mixing chalk and cheese. If they specialize in old French repertoire, why are we talking about them playing Handel? Yoninah (talk) 10:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Because of the contrast. If me mentioned some French opera or Requiem, the whole "focus" thing could be dropped, but now the 18 oboes were (only?) in this English music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:57, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • So? It doesn't make sense to twist and turn a hook to fit into 18 oboes. Good hooks can be written from any information. Yoninah (talk) 11:26, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Gerda Arendt, Yoninah, I have just added inline citations for both "period instruments" and "French sacred music", so that issue shouldn't hold back any hooks any longer. If a new focus for a hook is needed, perhaps something could be done with Sémélé by Marais (world premiere recording that won the Echo Klassik, though that would require additional sourcing for "world premiere"). In any event, it would be nice to get this nomination moving again. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt, Yoninah, and BlueMoonset: How about the following suggestions?
ALT1a: ... that Le Concert Spirituel, founded in 1987, revives the French repertoire played at the court of Versailles?
ALT3 ... that Le Concert Spirituel, a French baroque ensemble, performs period music originally played at the court of Versailles?
ALT3a ... that the baroque ensemble Le Concert Spirituel was founded to revive great French works that were originally played at the court of Versailles?
ALT4 ... that Le Concert Spirituel, a French baroque ensemble, was nominated for the Grammy Awards in 2001 and 2013?
ALT5 ... that a recording of Marin Marais's Sémélé by the Le Concert Spirituel won "Opera Recording of the Year" at Germany's Echo Klassik Awards in 2009?
As an outsider to the topic but a history buff, I found it interesting that the group's focus is on music used in Versailles, so perhaps that's one possible angle that can be given focus. For an angle that might appeal to a broader audience, the Grammy Awards angle is also an option, perhaps in combination with other proposals like the Versailles angle. Meanwhile, I have to repeat Yoninah's observation above that several parts of the "Recordings" section, including the entire DVDs section, is unreferenced. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:42, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for trying, but ... sigh. Here, I thought I could please you by a truly hooky thing, those 18 oboes, unheard of, - and I happened to hear it on radio, after I worded the hook. I find the court alone, the levee ceremony, the unknown opera and prizes much less hooky, and Handel's Water Music is one of the most popular pieces of Classical music, no? - Generally: I think the article on Baroque music would be rather confusing for someone who has no idea what it is, but that someone would probably not be interested in details about this group anyway. An article French Baroque music would be nice to have, but is only a sad redirect. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Lee Vilenski: Is it okay if you take a second look at the nomination and check all of the new proposals and comments? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:50, 6 April 2020 (UTC)7
    • Personally, I think the most Hooky part of all this, is that they played a song with a band and 18 oboes (which is an obscene amount of oboes). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 16:31, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 16[edit]

San Michele Arcangelo ai Corridori di Borgo

View of the church of San Michele Arcangelo with the passetto in background (1900 ca.)
View of the church of San Michele Arcangelo with the passetto in background (1900 ca.)
  • Reviewed: Old City of Hebron
  • Comment: In case of decision in favour of ALT1 we could substitute the picture of the church with that of the fresco, also in the article

Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:29, 16 February 2020 (UTC).

  • The English needs a going over - I've put in Nursing Madonna instead of the wholly unidiomatic Virgin of the Milk with the Child! Johnbod (talk) 04:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
  • You are absolutely right @Johnbod: my mother tongue is Italian, and this is immediately apparent from reading the text. P.S. Maybe if you have time you could also have a look to the via Giulia article, which I expanded but, having been already on DYK, I cannot propose here. Alex2006 (talk) 10:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I have just requested that the article receive a copyedit at the Guild of Copy Editors request page; given the current rate of reviewing there, it will probably be completed by the end of the month, at which point the review here can resume. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:19, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Hallo @Johnbod: & @BlueMoonset:, I tried to copyedit the article (which was really in a shameful state, SOM!). You can either give green light for a review or wait for a professional copyedit. Thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 12:22, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg copy-edited. Ready for review now. Johnbod (talk) 18:00, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
I have copy-edited this article on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors, as requested. The article had been erroneously removed from the GOCE's Requests page. The prose should be in good shape now. I left a couple of {{Clarify}} templates where I was unable to understand what was meant in the prose; editors may need to refer to sources to clear up these issues. Good luck with your DYK nomination, and feel free to ping me with any questions. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 17[edit]

Amar Asha

  • ... that "Amar Asha" ("Immortal Hope"), a Gujarati poem by Manilal Dwivedi, was reviewed by Mahatma Gandhi in his magazine? Source: "Thaker, Dhirubhai (1956). Manilāla Nabhubhāi: Sāhityasādhana મણિલાલ નભુભાઇ: સાહિત્ય સાધના [Works of Manilal Nabhubhai] (in Gujarati). Ahmedabad: Gurjar Grantharatna Karyalay. pp. XV–XVI. OCLC 80129512.
  • Reviewed: Winston Price
  • Comment: GOCE request. Ongoing copyedit.  Done

Created by Nizil Shah (talk) and Gazal world (talk). Nominated by Nizil Shah (talk) at 05:08, 18 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Drive-by comment: I added the translation of the title, but the hook really isn't that hooky. Yoninah (talk) 18:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah:, Mahatma Gandhi is a popular major figure in relation to politics and philosophy so readers may wonder about a poem reviewed by him. I found it the most hooky. -Nizil (talk) 16:46, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
And the most interesting fact is that, this review is the only literary piece written by Gandhi. --Gazal world (talk) 16:50, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes, that would be a more interesting hook fact, Gazal world. As it stands, though, the hook is just name-dropping a famous person who "reviewed" it. How about adding more color to the hook? Like:
  • ALT1: ... that Mahatma Gandhi praised the Gujarati poem "Amar Asha" ("Immortal Hope"), saying that both Hindus and Muslims "should be proud of it"? Dwivedi, Manilal (2000) [1895]. "મિતાક્ષરી". In Thaker, Dhirubhai (ed.). Ātmanimajjana આત્મનિમજ્જન. M. N. Dvivedī Samagra Sāhityaśreṇī–3 (in Gujarati). Gandhinagar: Gujarat Sahitya Academy. pp. 329, 338. ISBN 81-7227-075-5.Yoninah (talk) 23:08, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Thats better. Thanks, -Nizil (talk) 06:54, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you. Ready for full review. Yoninah (talk) 13:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough. The hook needs citing. There appear to be unsourced statements in the article. --evrik (talk) 05:14, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
@Evrik: Reference has been added now. Thanks. --Gazal world (talk) 06:04, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I have no way of verifying the hook. --evrik (talk) 20:18, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 20[edit]

Old City of Hebron

Old City of Hebron
Old City of Hebron

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 11:07, 20 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Starting review: Alex2006 (talk) 08:00, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg The article complies with almost all the requirements for DYK, but I see two problems: the first is that at the moment it is out of scope: it does not deal about the historic center of Hebron, but above all about the Israel occupation of the historic center of Hebron. It is not even explained why UNESCO considers it as a World Heritage Site. I think that first of all we need an "history" section where to put the info about the occupation, and then the article needs to be expanded, or to be renamed. Moreover, it is not completely neutral; for example, in the last sentence of the introduction, the source used (haaretz) is a liberal, left wing Israel newspaper. It would be good to know also the point of view of the government about the reason for the expulsion of the Temporary International Presence in Hebron. Alex2006 (talk) 11:49, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

There are severe POV problems with this article:
  • The article it doesn't mention all the controversy and criticism surrounding of site recognition by UNESCO [6]
 Now added to article. Onceinawhile (talk) 16:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It only gives a small one sentence about Jewish community while omitting its rich history and what happened to her along the history
 Per discussion below, covered adequately at Hebron#History.. Onceinawhile (talk) 16:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
  • It give POV explanation to the security measure by IDF from one side POV source without mention terrorist activities by Palestinian groups.
 Per discussion below, covered adequately at Hebron#History.. Onceinawhile (talk) 16:37, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
--Shrike (talk) 13:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @Alessandro57 and Shrike: for your comments. I focused my efforts when building this article on setting out the main sights, the divisions of the city, the current legal status, and finding good maps (the maps bit being the most time consuming...) All these points are good and fair, but this article is not up for WP:FA so it isn’t expected to be a fulsome account of all the political and historical complexities. These points are all addressed in great detail in the parent article at Hebron.

How can we address your POV concerns without turning this into a very long and complex article and without duplicating all the information at Hebron?

Onceinawhile (talk) 13:15, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

The point of view of the government about the reason for the expulsion of the Temporary International Presence in Hebron seems to be explained here. I say "seems to be" because it is "a liberal, left wing Israel newspaper":) Selfstudier (talk) 14:29, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @Selfstudier:, then this point of view can be added (with its reference) to the article, and a point is solved. @Onceinawhile:, anyway, if, as you affirm, the "political and historical complexities" of Hebron are fully addressed in the article about the city, there is no need to repeat them here. Then I would focus the scope of this article on the historic center, writing more about the cultural and art treasures of the center itself, and maybe mentioning the controversy arisen because of the site recognition by UNESCO. Political and historical problems can be addressed through a redirect to the Hebron article or one of its sections. Alex2006 (talk) 17:56, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
I agree I suggest removing the TIPH part, the UNESCO controversy should discussed from all angles also a connection to Jewish people should be mentioned explicitly.I think also if we want the hook about the Unesco the controversy should be part of the hook -Shrike (talk) 18:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
The observer group was originally set up following the well known massacre at the Ibrahimi mosque and since Israel is now insisting that it be included in the proposed annexation map being drawn up by an Israeli-US committee, it seems pertinent to retain the TIPH material in some (perhaps amended) form.Selfstudier (talk) 18:30, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
I don't know what precisely you mean by "UNESCO controversy", do you refer to the U.S./Israel objection to the listing? If I recall there were only 3 votes against the proposal. However, I agree with the reviewer that it should be explained why UNESCO decided to list it.Selfstudier (talk) 18:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

@Alessandro57: would you mind taking a look at the revised article and let me know if you would like any further changes? Onceinawhile (talk) 16:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Comment Nothing really has changed the article use the same POV language usage of partisan sites like +972 and Betzelem while no sites with opposites POVs provide only half truths for example it does mention IDF security measures and the Hardship of Palestinian Arabs but didn't say why they where in force. IMO in current form the article could not be promoted --Shrike (talk) 16:51, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg I still don't see the reason why UNESCO inserted the historic center in the List of the heritage sites: this should be mentioned in the article. Moreover, I don't think that writing "covered adequately at Hebron#History" on this page solves the POV problem, since we cannot expect that a reader jumps by herself from this article to the one about Hebron: you should at least provide two redirects in the article explaining that if someone wants to know the Jewish history of the site and wants a non - POV explaination of the security measure by IDF should go to the main article (and, of course, it would be much better to have some information also here about these issues). Cheers, Alex2006 (talk) 10:22, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
There were two aspects to the listing, the listing itself and the contemporaneous "in danger" listing (which is supposedly why the listing was expedited). I will see what can be found for both aspects. I do think we should be a little careful that do not mix up religion with nationality. The "Jewishness" is a religious thing (ie the comparative is Muslim/Christian). A listing is inscribed along with a nationality (usually, the Old City was proposed by Jordan and is not categorized under any country). In this case, that is Palestinian and not Israeli. So when Netanyahu is quoted as saying "[http://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/07/unesco-recognises-hebron-as-palestinian-world-heritage-site “This time they decided that the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron is a Palestinian site, meaning not Jewish, and that it’s in danger." it is this that is the POV position ie wrongly comparing Palestine with Jewish (a country with a religion). This mischaracterization is the basis of all of the Israeli complaints. Shrike, all sources are biased, should you actually have access to these mysterious non partisan sources then why not add them to the article or are you simply content to complain about the sources that don't agree with your own POV?Selfstudier (talk) 14:29, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @Selfstudier:, I wanted to ask the same: ;-) @Shrike:, why don't you work together with the author of the article and try to reach a compromise? Alex2006 (talk) 17:20, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I try to make it less POV but I think its nominator responsibility to make the article to meet the DYK standards. --Shrike (talk) 17:33, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I had to read the ICOMOS report to try and verify the real reason for inscription so what follows is OR. If I had to summarize the report, ICOMOS were forced to consider the application on an expedited basis based on Palestinian allegations of a threat to the site and while they did conclude that the property was under threat they were not convinced (that is, the case was not sufficiently made) that the listing was otherwise justified and sought a field visit to take that forward. Then that field visit never happened because they were refused permission and subsequently UNESCO passed a resolution inscribing the property onto the list of sites in danger based on what they had (ie what I just described). Locating secondary sources describing this might be a bit of a problem but I will have a go anyway. In the meantime, I directly linked the report (and the submissions) in the article text, at least people can read it for themselves (these are however, primary sources).Selfstudier (talk) 19:25, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I located a couple of secondary sources to document the above, I think that should clarify the "why" of the listing, that it was essentially a political decision based on the information available at the time.Selfstudier (talk) 13:25, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 21[edit]

Integer BASIC

  • Reviewed: Reema Juffali
  • Comment: Series of edits over two weeks just hit 5x according to DKY Check. Lots of ALTs because, well, it's Woz, there's always lots of possibilities! Personally, I think "Woz" should be "the Great and Mighty Woz", but I doubt the nebbishes would allow it; so let's put it on one and see what happens. Question: lots of images of Integer BASIC being run, could any of them possibly be used?

5x expanded by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 17:45, 3 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I don't wish to be such a party pooper on a fine expansion, but two weeks is outside of the timeframe to 5x expand, although I seem to recall on previous occasions we have turned a blind eye to that when the work has been particularly good. Yoninah, can you remind me what the generally accepted procedure is here? Also, I know what "The Great And Powerful Woz" is referring to, but not everyone will, so that'll need a source. Similarly, the prose jumps between "Woz" and "Wozniak"; I think for an encyclopedia we should go with the latter as "Woz" sounds too much like jargon for those "in the know". I personally like the main hook the best, it's the most quirky and the most interesting to a non-developer, but ALT1 works for me as well. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:14, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Wait, what? Had I any idea that was the rule, I would have simply edited all the changes in Smultron and uploaded in a single go. Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:41, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Ritchie333: hi, the rule is 7 days. I don't have time to check whether it's really a 5x expansion, but it looks like the nominator's work started on February 21, 11 days before nominating, which is only 4 days late. You could IAR if you want. Best, Yoninah (talk) 00:16, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed, since previous one still has not returned after 17 days. A four-day IAR is certainly not beyond the pale here. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:29, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Nomination was late. Not clear that this was a 5x expansion. I suggest going for a GA nomination. --evrik (talk) 04:58, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg evrik, this is quite clearly a more than 5x expansion, with the prose characters at 3712 prior to expansion (the previous edit was from October 2, 2019, and the article hasn't previously been above 4000 prose characters except for a few minutes in 2018 and a more extended period in 2016, both well outside what can be considered, even though DYKcheck picks up on it), and is 20,352 now (and was over 20,000 the day it was nominated). To be clear here, if you reinstate your rejection, it would be solely on the basis of those four days. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:19, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I went and looked at the character counts myself. Which version are you using? Also, what do you consider the day it was complete? --evrik (talk) 16:15, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • evrik, DYKcheck on this October 2019 version (the last before the expansion began on February 21): 3712 prose characters, meaning that a 5x expansion would require at least 18,560 prose characters. DYKcheck on this March 3 version (at 17:30 (UTC), 15 minutes prior to nomination): 20,056 prose characters. So at the moment it was nominated on March 3, it was more than 5x expanded with the edits that started on February 21. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:36, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Impressive expansion. So it was a few days late--big deal. I picked ALT 5, cause I think it's the most accessible and the juiciest. Thanks to BlueMoonset for counting beans. Taking into account the valid comment by User:Ritchie333 about "Woz", I changed those "Woz"s in the article to "Wozniak" because a. it was not very encyclopedic and b. not done consistently. The prose is fine, I didn't see any plagiarism in the spot checks I made, the hook and all the other stuff I looked at were verified. So, off we go. Drmies (talk) 01:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Edward Ardolino

Moved to mainspace by E54495a (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen () 14:24, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment: You need to say WHEN it was moved to mainspace, especially when there are many hundreds of edits, as here. It was 21 Feb in this case. I won't review but some of the sculpture terminology is oddly used. One caption says the piece was "sculpted" by A and "carved" by B. The distinction needs to be clarified - presumably B was working from A's modello. Johnbod (talk) 04:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Reply User:Johnbod Moved February 21, 2020. Nominated for DYK February 28, 2020. 7&6=thirteen () 10:13, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I will review, but first, it need copyediting and the bare links need to be converted to references. --evrik (talk) 19:34, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
No bare links. What copy editing do you want? 7&6=thirteen () 19:57, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
evrik, I didn't see any bare links either--but I did see the need for copyedits. Drmies (talk) 01:16, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 24[edit]

Al and Barbara Garvey

Source: Beth Winegarner (December 2003). "How Marin County Became Synonymous With Hot Tubs." Marinscope Community Newspapers

Source: Duncan Campbell (July 2002). "From hot tub to hot water", The Guardian.

Created by Binksternet (talk). Self-nominated at 03:16, 25 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Note that the article has been changed since its nomination, with the topic expanding to include Al's wife, Barbara. The article's name is now Al and Barbara Garvey. This was done because both of them worked on establishing hot tub culture in Marin County, both of them pushed the resurgence of tango dancing in the San Francisco Bay Area, and they have collaborated on art projects. Their fame is combined. Binksternet (talk) 17:16, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I am interested in doing a review for this nomination. I notice there are several excellent photos used in the article, and I am curious if the nominator wishes to propose hooks using any of the images? I hope to finish my review by tomorrow. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 04:18, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
  • NOTE, I crossed off ALT0 since the article title has been renamed. I am open to a reworded version of the hook. Flibirigit (talk) 04:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for suggesting a photo. When I first wrote this DYK nom, the photos were not yet uploaded by Al Garvey, so I didn't even consider it. But you're right, it would be fun to have a photo, for instance the hot tub one (which probably would not scale down very well) or perhaps File:Al and Barbara Garvey with hats.jpg which isn't used in the article but was part of the upload batch from Al Garvey the other day (see Commons:Al and Barbara Garvey for all the images).
Otherwise, I could pick a tango image and write a hook about tango. What's your preference? Binksternet (talk) 04:37, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I really have no preference, it's your choice if you want to use an image. Since there is a discussion here regarding photo licenses, a final decision on images might have to be deferred until that discussion is closed. I can however go ahead and review the rest of the article. I will do my best to have the first review done within 24 hours. Flibirigit (talk) 05:01, 23 March 2020 (UTC)


Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - ?
  • Interesting: Green tickY

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Article was created on February 23 and nominated within seven days. Questions on sourcing and citations listed below. ALT1 is interesting and has potential. It is verified with the source provided, but the phrase "started Marin County's hot tub culture" or similar are not explicity mentioned or cited in the section "Hot tub culture". Plagiarism is borderline since some direct quotes are rather long and include multiple sentences. Article is neutral in tone. Length is adequate. QPQ requirement is complete. Overall the article is in decent shape. Please don't be discouraged with the questions listed. The Commons discussion on the photos needs to be resolved. This article would be much better with photos than without. I am also open to considering other hooks. Flibirigit (talk) 08:42, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Questions

  •  Done In the introduction, the phrase "Barbara collaborates with Al on certain of his art projects" seems to have to be missing a word, or have too many words in it.
  • In the "Personal lives" section, what is the source for "Their first daughter, Megan, was born in San Francisco in 1961"?
  •  Done Citation # 5 is a bare URL, and needs more details added.
  •  Done Is it possible to shorten some of the direct quotes? For example, the fourth paragraph in the "Personal lives" is almost entirely direct quotes.
  • In the "Woodworking" section, what is the source for "When Al started woodworking, he took a long hiatus from painting"?
  • In the "Tango dancing" section, what is the source for "Tango images fill many of Al's 21st century paintings"?
  • I tweaked the wording and fleshed out the bare URL. The Garveys two children are not in a published reference, just part of general knowledge about the couple. Binksternet (talk) 00:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the changes. It would be best to hide or remove general statements without a clear source. I added a few more to the questions above. The discussion at the common regarding the photos appears to be ongoing. Flibirigit (talk) 18:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I have noticed some progress in the Commons discussion here. Do you want to wait until that is resolved? I don't mind putting this on hold if necessary. Flibirigit (talk) 02:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Sure, we can wait and see what happens at Commons. Binksternet (talk) 04:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Any update on this? Also, did you see the other non-photo concerns listed? Flibirigit (talk) 00:57, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Sony Xperia 1 II

  • ... that tech journalists noted the inclusion of a 3.5 mm audio jack in the upcoming flagship smartphone Sony Xperia 1 II? "It may also be the only flagship smartphone in 2020 with a headphone jack." (Ars Technica); "As well as the 3.5mm headphone jack, which makes a welcome return here" (Engadget)
    • ALT1:... that the Roman numeral suffix in the name of the upcoming flagship smartphone Sony Xperia 1 II is read "mark two"? "'The "Sony Xperia One Two?' [...] this thing is apparently the 'Sony Xperia One Mark Two.'" (Ars Technica)
  • Reviewed: Mayfeld
  • Comment: Crediting User:Ghostofakina for significantly expanding the article following its creation, from 424 chars to 3979 chars.

Created by Nimda01 (talk). Nominated by You've gone incognito (talk) at 15:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - I like the idea of the hook, but feel it could be phrased differently to highlight the rarity of finding a new phone with a headphone jack.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg All looks good. Just try rewording the hook! Soaper1234 - talk 23:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

  • @Feminist: sorry for the delayed reply! I'd maybe add something along the lines of "which is deemed uncommon" at the end to explain its relevance. Soaper1234 - talk 20:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I guess that's possible, though my counter-argument to that would be if we have to explain why a 3.5mm jack is interesting, they would not be interested in reading this article anyway. Alternatively, perhaps "that unlike most other smartphones, the Sony Xperia 1 II smartphone includes a 3.5 mm audio jack?" would feel more natural. feminist (talk) 01:51, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Partisan Congress riots

  • ... that one of the men who robbed František Hoffmann's apartment during the Partisan Congress riots left behind his Czechoslovak Medal of Merit?
    • ALT1:... that the Czechoslovak authorities denied that partisans were responsible for the Partisan Congress riots, instead blaming Hungarians and "reactionary elements"?
    • ALT2:... that the Slovak authorities suspended restitution to Holocaust survivors after the Partisan Congress riots because many partisans were unhappy returning property that they had obtained to the original Jewish owners?

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 06:28, 29 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough. Long enough. Sourced. Can you please source the hooks? --evrik (talk) 04:41, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Evrik, As it says in the article, Bumová 2007, p. 18. for ALT0, Bumová 2007, pp. 23–24. for ALT1 (this is also discussed in several other sources), and see Bumová 2007, p. 21. and Cichopek 2014, pp. 105–106. for ALT2. buidhe 14:08, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Buidhe It is customary to add a citation behind your hook. Please do so, I don't read Slovak. Thanks.--evrik (talk) 19:52, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 25[edit]

Takapūneke

  • Reviewed: Jammu and Kashmir Public Safety Act, 1978
  • Comment: Well, this needs a tad more work. I had been working with a source (a 2015 article published on Stuff) that appears to be wrong as the Waitangi Treatment Ground does apparently not have National Reserve status. I'll look into it, fix the respective pages and comment here when done. But it needs to be nominated now as 7 days is nearly up.
  • Should be all good now. Schwede66 01:36, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:20, 2 March 2020 (UTC).


Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Green tickY
  • Neutral: Red XN - No. "planning treachery" for instance; the source just says that the Ngai Tahu traditions say that Tama-i-hara-nui heard say that the Ngati Toa who were asking to come trade for greenstone were planning treachery (and the Ngati Toa who said they wanted to trade got killed in a dispute over a piece of greenstone, which does not provide proof that they were planning treachery). The source also seems to say that both parties had firearms. The complexity of the whole conflict need not be included in the article, and it's going to be difficult to describe it neutrally.
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Schwede66, this is clearly an article about a location. Would it be possible to include co-ordinates? Then we could have an OSM locator map in an infobox (Template:Infobox settlement might be suitable). I'd imagine quite a lot of people even in New Zealand don't know where Akaroa is without looking it up, so it would be helpful to readers. HLHJ (talk) 04:01, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the review, HLHJ. I've added an infobox and coordinates. Don't worry about New Zealanders, as they would know where Akaroa is located, but it's of course useful for non-New Zealanders. What was holding me back is a lack of a photo of the site (there are few photos online but none suitably licensed, and I'm not keen on a 200 km round trip to take one myself). I have clarified the sourcing for the bulleted list. Would you mind pointing me to uncited content in the lead, please? I assume you are aware of MOS:CITELEAD. With regards to NPOV, I've consulted another book that I've got in my library (and I'm not sure why I hadn't looked at it before) and its author is (or was) the authority on Banks Peninsula history. He uses the words "Te Rauparaha's chiefs were ambushed and killed within the pa in what seemed to be ... a well-judged pre-emptive strike ..." hence I don't think that the previous wording was out of line, but I've changed it nonetheless. The "offending passage", including the word "treachery", has been reworded and it should now be neutral enough. With regards to the complexity of the whole conflict, we will have to disagree on that point. There is, as you can imagine, a whole lot more to it and I have tried hard to distill it down to the bare essentials to give readers enough context without them having to read other articles before they can understand what was going on. Have a look and let me know what you think. Once again, thanks for checking this DYK nomination. Schwede66 06:00, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Here it is, looking southeastwards into the bay; Takapūneke is just right of the last of the residential housing on the far side. What a great anchorage!
Chart showing holding ground
  • Ah, the pitfalls of trying to review something one knows nothing about... at least I'll ask all the stupid questions. Thank you for your patience, Schwede66. Firstly, Earwig is now functioning (bug), and the page was always copyvio-free. Check. Thank you very much for adding the Infobox and locator map. Thanks for clarifying the list refs; that should have been clear to me, but was not. "the events subsequently called the Elizabeth affair" is uncited, and I should have specified that initially; I do not consider this serious and you can leave it if you like. The lede also states that Tama-i-hara-nui was tortured and killed; his Dictionary of New Zealand Biography entry says he was certainly killed, and that most accounts agree that agree that he was tortured by the wives of the eight Ngāti Toa chiefs, but this is not in the body of the article, so it is not cited.
I wasn't advocating that you remove detail on the conflict from the article; I was trying to say that I was not insisting you go on to add every detail you could find. I should have noticed that this could be ambiguous in a text-only channel. Your goal of distillation seems good. Certainly I wasn't suggesting that you go there and take photos; I was actually thinking of a live zoomable OSM map, as at Ōnawe Peninsula. However, you prompted me to poke around Commons, and I did find a (very high-res) panorama that shows it, but no closer images. It's also technically shown in File:Bucht in Neuseeland.jpg.[1]
On neutrality: if you have a book source which says that the Ngāti Toa were only pretending to want to trade for greenstone ("pre-emptive strike" does not quite imply that the Ngāti Toa did not come to trade for greenstone on that occasion), then "pretence" is fine; otherwise it might be better something like "Eight of Te Rauparaha's chiefs were killed after they had entered Kaiapoi Pā claiming that they wished to trade for greenstone". It seems that the Ngāti Toa had just razed one or two Ngāi Tahu pās, which does rather cast suspicion on the intentions of the eight chiefs, but this is supposition; I would have no objection to your leaving the reader to make it, or quoting an RS making it. The Dictionary of New Zealand Biography says (of an immediately preceeding conflict): "Tama-i-hara-nui was less than enthusiastic to fight when he saw the returning refugees were armed with muskets, although his party also had guns", which seems to contradict the statement that the Ngāi Tahu had no guns (though they might have had far fewer); possibly I have missed something here.
The rest of this is suggestions, not review. Ignoramus-perspective again, but while I don't fully understand the roots of this conflict, it seems that John Stewart's involvement was very simply grounded in a payment of 50 tonnes of muka (which implies, rather appallingly, that he set a value on human life of three or more lives to the tonne of muka). Would it make sense to mention that Te Rauparaha hired or chartered the brig and captain? This need not take more than one or two words, and seems relevant to the subsequent legal proceedings. I attempted to give a hint of the nature of the causal link to the Treaty of Waitangi; crit welcome. I've globalized the New Zealand English slightly by referring to Phormium tenax as "harakeke flax", as it makes the later statements about collecting flax make more sense than if one is imagining retting the stems of purple-flowering plants in the corner of a field... if you object feel free to revert or modify. I've also modified flax, as Wikipedia readers include speakers of New Zealand English Face-smile.svg. HLHJ (talk) 19:34, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
HLHJ, thanks for taking such a deep interest. Rather than writing a long and detailed response, I shall work through the list by individual edits and documenting what I've done in edit responses. As for the photos, yes, I've also done a deep search on Commons. The photo you included on this page is taken from Hilltop; it's "the photo stop" when you travel to Akaroa as it's the first (and best) place to gain a view of Akaroa Harbour. The peninsula at the beginning of the bay is Ōnawe, by the way. As for a photo of Takapūneke itself, I took one of the sewage treatment plant a few years ago but it's vanished. I've only recently become aware of Takapūneke's historical significance, which is somewhat surprising given my deep interest in local history. Schwede66 21:09, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
I'm afraid I tend to overdo DYK reviews, Schwede66. I've made suggestions that go far beyond DYK requirements; don't feel obliged. The lack of photos on Commons does rather suggest that the site is not a major tourist destination (well, so did building a sewage plant). Thank you for documenting it; the article will now be accessible through many map interfaces. In Ngāi Tahu, I came across a source on the Elizabeth incident, and European reactions to it, along with the very extensive http://teara.govt.nz/en/ngati-toarangatira and http://teara.govt.nz/en/ngai-tahu (including a detailed account, with an account why the chiefs were thought to be pretending to trade (overheard comments; the Ngāti Toarangatira may have relied too much on differences in local languages), and the surprising info that the legal difficulty was that anyone considered heathen was not allowed to be a witness in court: http://teara.govt.nz/en/ngai-tahu/page-6). HLHJ (talk) 22:17, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

No trouble. It's not a tourist destination whatsoever! If and when the national reserve status goes through that'll presumably change. It's good to have a decent article for it, though. I've finished working through the feedback; thanks heaps for taking so much interest. The article is all the better for it. Schwede66 22:53, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

  • Jeez! Move all this to article talk please! Johnbod (talk) 03:47, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg See further discussion on Talk:Takapūneke. @Schwede66: Nearly ready; conflicting accounts of an episode in a war still need a bit of work for neutrality. HLHJ (talk) 02:49, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ There are a lot of near-misses: the headland on the right hosts the Britomart Monument shown at File:Akaroa 4 (31225076752).jpg. Also, File:Akaroa village grassland (Unsplash).jpg, view of the headland which hides the bay, far right, the bit just hidden behind the foreground hills to the far right here and here, and File:Banks Peninsula.JPG

Upāli

Statue of Upāli at Bodh Gaya
Statue of Upāli at Bodh Gaya
  • ... that Upāli, the disciple of the Buddha who was most learned in monastic discipline, used to be a simple barber? Source:"Originally, Upāli had been a low-caste barber in the service of the Śākyan princes." (Mrozik 2004)

5x expanded by Farang Rak Tham (talk) and Spasemunki (talk). Nominated by Farang Rak Tham (talk) at 22:38, 25 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I am interesting in reviewing this nomination, but I find the proposed hook a bit bland. If the most learned Buddha had been a barber, I could see that as interesting. But since it was his disciple who was the barber, it is less interesting. Are there other hooks which could be proposed? Flibirigit (talk) 07:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Flibirigit, how about ALT1 ... that Upāli, the learned low-caste disciple of the Buddha, was ordained before his friends of royal blood, in order to humble their pride?
--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 09:57, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • That sounds more interesting, although I'm not completely sure what it means yet. I will try to get around to the review within a day or two. Flibirigit (talk) 02:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Since I know nothing about Buddhism, all of it is unclear until I finish reading the article. I will get back to you when I have completed it. Flibirigit (talk) 11:00, 5 April 2020 (UTC)


Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Article is new enough as the fivefold expansion was completed from February 20 to 25, and nominated same day. Length and sourcing are adequate. No issues found for neutrality or plagiarism. The photo in this nomination is clear at a low resolution, used in the article, and all photos in the article are properly licensed. QPQ requirement is met. The proposed hooks are both verified with the citations inline. After reading the article, I learned that being a barber was a despised profession. I think many would not be aware of this fact. Is there some way to adjust ALT0 to convey this? ALT1 is also interesting. I'm curious about how to interpret "humble their pride". Would that be similar to instill humility? Flibirigit (talk) 02:41, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

After reading the article ... this fact. Still, I don't think the main hook would be interesting enough. Let's park this for now.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 20:50, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 is also interesting ... instill humility? Yes, that's similar. They were proud of their royal blood, in which they differed from Upāli. It's not peculiar English, as far as I am aware.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 20:50, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Pinging reviewer.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 13:14, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 26[edit]

Nikita Salogor

Moldavian irredentist map
Moldavian irredentist map

5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self-nominated at 07:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg 5x expansion. New enough, long enough. It is sourced. The hook needs reworking (tightening). Perhaps an alternate hook. I also suggest copy-editing the article further. Nice work. --evrik (talk) 04:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • @Evrik: Thanks, Evrik. Could you suggest a tighter hook and explain what sort of copyediting is needed? Dahn (talk) 06:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Alt1 ... that Moldavian leader Nikita Salogor called for expanding the borders of Soviet Moldavia in 1946 (territorial claims pictured), which may be why he was removed as leader later that year? --evrik (talk) 20:37, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg It passes, but the prose is rather dense. I have suggested a new hook, but this removes me from approving this. --evrik (talk) 20:37, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 28[edit]

Ulrich Stranz

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 23:22, 6 March 2020 (UTC).

  • I would really suggest that a different hook be proposed here, as it basically says that a composer composed a work. It says nothing about his life, career, or accomplishments. In addition, the hook as written would only appeal to those interested in European classical music and not to a broad international audience, as it mentions niche topics such as a Munich performance or a soloist that most people have not heard of. I would suggest that a different hook be written about him, something that would make even someone not interested in classical music want to learn more about him. Perhaps the part that goes Stranz spent two years at the electronic studio in Utrecht could be a good starting point here? I'm really wondering what an electronic studio has to do with classical music.
As an additional comment, the part which goes Stranz died in Zürich shortly before his 58th birthday of cancer. He was buried at the Fluntern Cemetery. is unreferenced. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:07, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
You are right, and I am busy, and know little about the person. Patience please. - Look at Stockhausen perhaps to understand how much classical contemporary music has to do with electronic music. The composer who recently died won the Pulitzer prize for a completely electronic piece of music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:03, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Haʻaheo Kaniu

Created by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 05:14, 29 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I think I like ALT0 the best, but the word "stole" doesn't seem to exactly reflect the relevant paragraph in the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:35, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
I was trying to make it more hooky. How about changing it to "took". KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:33, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
I think that sounds more accurate. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:03, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
There technically hasn't been a real review. Changing ALT0 to took doesn't make sense and adding anymore details like stole the future king Kalākaua away to raise as a baby? just makes it more bland. How about just ALT1? KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:21, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 is the better option actually. I apologize for the late reply as I had gotten into some real-life issues lately, but I'll try to do a full review by tomorrow if not later. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:58, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Article meets newness and length requirements. Assuming good faith for the offline sources. No close paraphrasing found. QPQ done. At this time, neither hook appears to be suitable. As mentioned above, in the case of ALT0, nothing in the article implies that the subject "stole" the baby. As for ALT1, the wording in the article doesn't seem to mention a "fight over" adoption with Kuini Liliha; in fact, Liliha only seems to be mentioned once all article. There appears to have been some custody battle involved, but as far as I can tell ith the current wording, it actually involved a different person other than Liliha; please correct me if I'm misinterpreting the wording. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:35, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: How about that? KAVEBEAR (talk) 09:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
While more accurate, it doesn't really sounds like a "hooky" hook. Perhaps a new direction is needed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT3:... that Hawaiian chiefesses Haʻaheo Kaniu left all her properties to future king Kalākaua in a verbal will?

How about this?KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:12, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

To be honest, it doesn't really sound that interesting since it doesn't explain at all how important she is. It gives no context about her life or her relationship with the future king. Narutolovehinata5
  • ALT4:... that Hawaiian chiefesses Haʻaheo Kaniu was one of the earliest converts to Christianity and attended class taught by the American missionaries with Queen Keōpūolani and Princess Nāhiʻenaʻena?

How about this?KAVEBEAR (talk) 16:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC) tccsdnew 12:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

That's a bit on the long side and perhaps a bit too complicated. Perhaps just stick with the "one of the earliest converts to Christianity" angle? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 17:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT5:... that Hawaiian chiefesses Haʻaheo Kaniu was one of the earliest converts to Christianity and attended class taught by the American missionaries?

How about this?KAVEBEAR (talk) 17:22, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Almost there, I just think that "Earliest converts to Christianity" needs to be made more specific: it should be specified somehow that she was among the first in Hawaii as the current wording gives the impression that she was among the first Christian converts ever. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:04, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT6:... that Hawaiian chiefesses Haʻaheo Kaniu was one of the earliest converts to Christianity in Hawaii?
  • ALT7:... that Hawaiian chiefesses Haʻaheo Kaniu was one of the earliest converts to Christianity in Hawaii and attended class taught by the American missionaries?
I think we should go with some variant of ALT6, but I'd suggest a slight reword so that "Hawaii" isn't mentioned twice in hook. The issue right now is that as far as I can tell nothing in the article says that she was "one of the earliest converts" in Hawaii, only that she was a convert. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:52, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 29[edit]

J. David Jentsch

  • ... that neuroscientist J. David Jentsch studies pathways in the brain that lead to addiction? "Jentsch explained that his team is not looking for the full biological profile of an addict that has already been altered by drug use. Rather, they are looking for the potential neural pathways that could lead a person toward addiction, beginning with their first consumption of a drug." source
    • ALT1:... that the car of neuroscientist J. David Jentsch was firebombed by animal rights activists? "When Jentsch dashed to his bedroom window, he saw a terrifying sight: His 2006 Volvo was engulfed in flames. Someone had shoved a bomb underneath it." source

Created by Jesswade88 (talk). Nominated by Achaea (talk) at 20:07, 1 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline and either hook could be used, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Can you please address the "citation needed" tag, or remove the claim, and then I will approve this. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:23, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

John Tiedtke

  • ... that John Tiedtke was an heir to a grocery and department store fortune, and his proudest accomplishment was philanthropic founding of a Bach festival? Source: "Tiedtke’s most notable contribution to the arts was his involvement in the Bach Festival. Since 1950 he had served as the president of the Bach Festival and turned the program into the high quality performances that it is today." Furrow and here and there

5x expanded by 7&6=thirteen (), Wilcley (talk), and StrayBolt (talk). Self-nominated at 19:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC).

ALT 1 ... that John Tiedtke, an heir to a grocery and department store fortune, was the philanthropic founder of a Bach festival? Source: "Tiedtke’s most notable contribution to the arts was his involvement in the Bach Festival. Since 1950 he had served as the president of the Bach Festival and turned the program into the high quality performances that it is today." Furrow and here and there
ALT 2 ... that John Tiedtke, an heir to a grocery and department store fortune, lead, perpetuated and funded a Bach festival, that fluorished under his leadership?
  • @7&6=thirteen: Hi, I will review this. I don't know what happened with the wikicode, but I fixed it. I respect that Cunard has contributed greatly to this page's AFD discussion to show that it's notable, but unfortunately, he has never edited the article so I have removed his name from the nomination. epicgenius (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @7&6=thirteen: I don't think he "founded" the Winter Park Bach Festival, but kept it going. StrayBolt (talk) 21:26, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • If this is the case, the article and hook should be amended accordingly. epicgenius (talk) 21:39, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
  • He was Chairman of the Board of Trustees for over 50 years.[8] StrayBolt (talk) 21:46, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

General eligibility:

  • New Enough: Green tickY
  • Long Enough: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Currently subject of AFD, so that will have to be resolved before this is approved or denied.

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg epicgenius (talk) 21:17, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Reply I have put in multiple sources establishing that the Tiedtke Family Mausoleum is at Woodlawn Cemetery (Toledo, Ohio). The only source I could find that explicitly places his remains in the crypt is this one at Find a Grave Did you know at Find a Grave. I do not have access to Woodlawn Cemetery records. I know that there are those who opine that Find a Grave is "not a reliable source." I've always thought that to be doctrinaire and not well thought out. In any event, I have no better source at my finger tips.
The proposed alternate hook is fine with me.
The AFD will soon be inevitably and satisfactorily resolved in due course. 7&6=thirteen () 15:40, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
epicgenius AFD closed as KEEP. Per the closer: "The result was keep Since relisting to allow for examination of the sources, a consensus has emerged that the article should be kept." 7&6=thirteen () 13:32, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Everything looks in order, but since I can't approve my own hooks, we will have to wait for another reviewer. epicgenius (talk) 14:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
I like it. Great work on this article! Lightburst (talk) 04:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
Hook tweaked. AFD closed as Keep. We only need a new reviewer? 7&6=thirteen () 12:16, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg The first paragraph in the "Career" section is not cited. It appears that the similar citation from the lead section could be duplicated here? Flibirigit (talk) 02:55, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Flibirigit Added citation to first paragraph under "Career." Are we GTG? 7&6=thirteen () 11:23, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
One other question, sorry. Is there a citation for his birth and death dates? I agree with the above concerns that he did not found the Bach Festival, but rather took it over after the founder died. ALT1 will need some adjustment. ALT0 seems very subjective with the words "his proudest accomplishment". Could a reworded hook be suggested? Flibirigit (talk) 02:06, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Put in more citations that show birth and death date. As to "proudest accomplishment" you are right that is subjective. "Philanthropic founder" isn't. Struck original hook. Alt seems clear and unambiguous. It is also cited and verified. WP:Verifiability, WP:Not truth. 7&6=thirteen () 10:54, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
I am struggling to understand "philanthropic founder" in the same sentence with the Bach Festival. I don't see any source which uses those words. I see that he was a philanthropist, and I see that the founded other things, but I do not see where is says he was the philanthropic founder of the Bach Festival. Flibirigit (talk) 08:19, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
I appreciate your struggle. You are right, They don't use those exact word. But this is a fair representation of what the sources say.
Nevertheless these sources show him to be a great force in the creation, development, direction, funding and success of that festival. Here is what they say:
  • "Tiedtke’s most notable contribution to the arts was his involvement in the Bach Festival. Since 1950 until his death, he served as the president of the Bach Festival and turned the program into the high quality performances that it is today.""History: The Bach Festival Society of Winter Park". [In 1950] Rollins President Hugh McKean asked John M. Tiedtke, the treasurer of Rollins College, a music lover, and an astute businessman, to fill the opening and he agreed. Mr. Tiedtke served as Chairman of the Board of Trustees until his death in December 2004. Under his leadership, the Bach Festival Society expanded its programming to include two additional choral programs beyond the annual Festival, top-tier visiting soloists and ensembles, and community events in Winter Park.
  • "Mrs. Isabelle Sprague-Smith, a former New York artist and school principal, was the president and driving force behind the Bach Festival from 1935 until her death in 1950. At Mrs. Sprague-Smith’s death, the future of the Bach Festival was uncertain. Rollins President Hugh McKean asked John M. Tiedtke, the treasurer of Rollins College, a music lover, and an astute businessman, to fill the opening and he agreed. Mr. Tiedtke served as Chairman of the Board of Trustees until his death in December 2004. Under his leadership, the Bach Festival Society expanded its programming to include two additional choral programs beyond the annual Festival, top-tier visiting soloists and ensembles, and community events in Winter Park." [9]. The citations are already in the article.
  • Orlando Magazine noted that Tiedtke was "a savior to nearly every arts organization in town, including the Bach Festival, Florida Symphony Orchestra, Orlando Museum of Art, Orlando Opera, and Festival of Orchestras—all that besides being a founder/funder of United Arts of Central Florida".
What do you suggest would be acceptable to you? 7&6=thirteen () 12:00, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
User:Flibirigit I've added ALT2 to try to address your concerns. 7&6=thirteen () 12:47, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 2[edit]

William Tennent III

  • ... that colonial-American minister William Tennent III was called the "Firebrand Parson" due to his strong support of religious and civil liberty? Source: "Nevertheless, his efforts in the American cause earned him the sobriquet "Firebrand Parson" among patriots in Charleston..." from p.161

Created by MB (talk). Self-nominated at 23:10, 4 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. Hook is within proper limits and is interesting. However, there are duplicate links in the body of the text. i.e.William Tennent and South Carolina General Assembly. Also, citations for book sources Howe(1858), Ramsey(1870), Kidd(2007), Bailey(1981), Krawczynski(2001), and Kramer(1953) lack page number designations. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:22, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Gwillhickers, Having no duplicate links is not a DYK requirement, nor is referencing specific page numbers. As I recall, most or all of the sources only had about one page on Tennent, so I didn't bother with page numbers. The article can be edited by everyone should anyone want to make those kind of changes, but I don't think they are necessary. MB 02:03, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
DYK criteria pertains to the hook size, length of the article, new enough, etc. You will not find rules and guidelines listed under DYK criteria. It was my understanding that DYK nominations must follow the same rules and guidelines { 1, 2 ) as do all articles. If this is, for some reason, something you refuse to do, or can't be bothered with, good luck with the next reviewer. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 02:53, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Blakenhall, Cheshire

  • ... that the rural parish of Blakenhall once housed one of Cheshire's earliest documented ironworks?
    • ALT1:... that the rural parish of Blakenhall, Cheshire, had an iron foundry during the English Civil War? Sources: "On the fringe of Blakenhall lies Doddington Old Mill ... The same site was used as a furnace by Sir Thomas Delves, where the hammers and anvils were cast, and in 1667 the forge's output of pig iron was 500 tons." (The Cheshire Village Book p.34). & "How far there were furnaces, bloomeries and forges for iron-making in Cheshire is difficult to estimate. ... In 1619 a hammerman was mentioned in a register as belonging to Tib Green on Checkley Brook which is just inside the Cheshire southern border, and by 1646 there was certainly a refining forge or finery leased to Walter Chetwind of Rugeley. There may have been a forge refining pig iron at Madeley (near Crewe) or Heighley [neither is in Cheshire] ... During the Civil Wars, ironworks listed in Royalist Composition papers include Doddington, Lea, Church Lawton and Vale Royal." (Beck, p. 57). There is more detail pp. 73–81 of [10]
  • Reviewed: Greyfriars, Winchelsea
  • Comment: Prefer the main hook; the alt is in case the sourcing is not deemed clear enough to support "one of ... earliest documented" wording.

5x expanded by Espresso Addict (talk). Self-nominated at 22:57, 5 March 2020 (UTC).


Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - n
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - First hook preferred, but needs a verifiable source. Striking Alt1.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Nice work --evrik (talk) 19:27, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 3[edit]

Forty Saints Monastery, Sarandë

  • ... that although in ruins, the Forty Saints Monastery in Albania still possesses a religious importance for the local Greek Orthodox population? Source: The Forty Saints Monastery Rediscovered p. 42: Although much of the superstructure of the basilica has long been demolished, pilgrims continue to place flowers in discrete niches within the shattered building. As a place it still possesses an importance for the Greek orthodox communities here.

5x expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self-nominated at 15:06, 4 March 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: ????
Overall: Symbol question.svg Almost ready. QPQ is not done. Last sentence of the first paragraph of History is missing an inline citation. Ergo Sum 20:04, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Reviewed: Llerena_Friend
Thanks for reviewing this.I've added the missing citation. Alexikoua (talk) 19:36, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go. Ergo Sum 17:53, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but there is substantial copying from several sources. Here is just a sample from Bowden:
  • Source: Externally it was a rectangular building with a single apse, exo-narthex, eso-narthex and two small external towers. The interior was articulated by six apsidal chambers
  • Article: The main church was a rectangular building with a single apse, exo-narthex, eso-narthex and two small external towers. The interior was articulated by six apsidal chambers.
  • Source: The pilasters that divide the chambers demonstrate that it was probably roofed with a series of domes and half domes. The western half of the building covers a substantial crypt
  • Article: The pilasters that divide the chambers demonstrate that it was probably roofed with domes and half domes. The western half of the building covers a substantial crypt.
  • Source: At least one of these chambers contains traces of what appears obelate-antique paintings. Two haloed figures holding open books are visible on one wall, while remains of a painted arcade can be seen on another.
  • Article: At least one of these chambers contains traces of what appears obelate-antique paintings. Two haloed figures holding open books are visible on a wall while remains of a painted arcade can be seen on another one.
  • The nominator must re-check and rewrite all the source material in his own words. Yoninah (talk) 21:44, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the catch, Yoninah. Earwig was down when I was reviewing and I meant to come back and check once it was up before promoting, but it slipped my mind. Ergo Sum 23:20, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Ergo Sum: Actually, Earwig's is still down. I just looked up the sources and searched for the language in the article. That's why I suggested to the nominator that he check every single source he used. I saw copying in at least two references. Yoninah (talk) 00:38, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I've checked this reference by reference. Hopefully all paraphrasing issues appear to be fixed now.Alexikoua (talk) 09:37, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Hack of Jeff Bezos's phone

  • ... that Jeff Bezos’s phone hacked by exchange a WhatsApp message that sent from the account utilized personally by Mohammed bin Salman? Source: telegraph
    • ALT1:... that Saudi experts claimed Bezos's coverage of Khashoggi's critical columns about bin Salman and his struggle of repression against activists were reasons for the hack? Source: theguardian

Created/expanded by M1nhm (talk). Self-nominated at 11:18, 5 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Date and length fine. However I have some serious concerns about this. First of all, the article is written in broken and ungrammatical English. Second of all, that title is very provocative and in my view seems to violate WP:NDESC. Thirdly, this is very WP:NPOV here and those hooks could not be accepted at all as they, and the article seem close to libellous if we ran them (article says the alleged hack came from the Prince's phone, but that doesn't prove he sent them). @M1nhm:, can you answer my concerns because I have to be honest, I am very close to declining this at the moment. But may ask advice from WT:DYK. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
    • @The C of E: I apologize for the delay in response. About ungrammatical English: the article was copy-edited.For WP:NDESC: I used this title (Hack of Jeff Bezos' phone) based on reliable sources like telegraph and nytimes and theguardian . I was going to change the title to "allegation to hacked of jeff's phone", but it is n't true. Please note that the phone was hacked (it is fact) but hacking by Saudi crown is questionable. So that I think the current title is true because I said nothing about who did the hack into the title.For WP:NPOV: I tried to collect all of the opinions in the article. Anyway please give me more time to find and fix NPOV issues. M1nhm (talk) 08:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
      • If that was copyedited, I suggest you ask someone else because it clearly wasn't done by someone who was fully familiar with the English language. Examples: " the massage was sent from the personal account of the crown prince", "after the National Enquirer has released details of Bezos's private life". I'm sure you can see how this is clearly incorrect English, looks a lot like a google translate attempt to me. It will need some serious cleanup before we can even consider promoting this @M1nhm:. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:12, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
        • I tried to review the article and fixed the problem that were mentioned by you. If there are problems, please let me know. M1nhm (talk) 06:48, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

@Valereee and The C of E:I tried to review the article and fixed the problem that were mentioned by you.I sent a message to you at article talk and waiting for your reply.M1nhm (talk) 06:23, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

M1nhm I don't think The C of E's major concern as expressed at the DYK link he gave above (now archived) has been fixed, and on rereading the article and the sources, I'm not sure it can be without stripping out everything that says it was bin Salman who did it. We don't usually want to say "it has been alleged" "The allegation is" "it was found" etc. We want to attribute this kind of thing. We want to say, "So-and-so alleges" and "Person X found" but unfortunately the sources dance around who exactly is alleging and finding this, too. And they're going around in circles -- the telegraph says the guardian reported it, for instance. And then there's the "highly probable" with "medium-to-high confidence" issue. I don't think this works for DYK, and frankly I'm a little leery of it being an article. --valereee (talk) 09:58, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
The C of E, I've done a complete overhaul of the article, if you'd be willing to take another look. --valereee (talk) 11:50, 29 March 2020 (UTC) ETA: we're going to need some new ALTs, too, neither of these will work. --valereee (talk) 12:04, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

ALT2 ... that analysts claimed Jeff Bezos's phone was hacked because of Jamal Khashoggi's columns in The Washington Post? http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/jan/21/amazon-boss-jeff-bezoss-phone-hacked-by-saudi-crown-prince "Saudi experts – dissidents and analysts – told the Guardian they believed Bezos was probably targeted because of his ownership of the Post and its coverage of Saudi Arabia. Khashoggi’s critical columns about Mohammed bin Salman and his campaign of repression against activists and intellectuals rankled the crown prince and his inner circle." --valereee (talk) 13:25, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Kathleen Pelham Burn

Kathleen Pelham Burn
Kathleen Pelham Burn
  • ... that Kathleen Pelham Burn, a Countess of Drogheda, was nicknamed "The Flying Countess" because of her involvement with early aviation? Source: The best is a scanned copy of a contemporary news report that is available on Commons archive
    • ALT1:... that early 20th century socialite and aviator Kathleen Pelham Burn also competed at Wimbledon, held seánces for art masters, and married both an Irish and a Mexican aristocrat? Source: All described in Turtle Bunbury's writings.
  • Reviewed: Thomas I. Gasson
  • Comment: New creation of article; a version I have never seen was deleted last year in a user copyvio investigation.

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 21:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Red XN - I'm not sure Tennis Forum is a reliable source, and it's used for a lot of the facts in the article. Everything but the news article seems to have an additional source: can Tennis Forum be omitted, and the news clipping cited directly? (The URL given is to the start of the mega-thread: this is the page about Pelham Burn [11])
  • Neutral: Green tickY
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Green tickY

Image eligibility:

  • Freely licensed: Red XN - Needs a US public domain tag on its Commons page. In addition, I feel like it needs a more reliable source than a forum post for having been taken in the 1920s. Is it possible to locate the article anywhere?
  • Used in article: Green tickY
  • Clear at 100px: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg I really like the hooks; I think all the problems could be resolved by finding the source for that newspaper article. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 12:05, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

  • @YorkshireLad: I can look into that, but if you've found the original article, feel free to add it in yourself :) Kingsif (talk) 20:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Sure, I can have a go at that. :-) (I haven't got the article itself because I don't have access to the service that presents the articles, but I can look at the copy you uploaded to Commons.) I think in that case I'd like someone else to have a look over this review, since I'd then be an involved editor and I'm still relatively early in my reviewing "career", so to speak. (This is my second review.) YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 20:38, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 4[edit]

Art pottery

Art pottery "wave bowl" (not radioactive)
Art pottery "wave bowl" (not radioactive)
  • ... that the interest art pottery took in ceramic glaze effects led to some pieces still being slightly radioactive today? Source: Bergesen, Victoria, Bergesen's Price Guide: British Ceramics, 1992, Barrie & Jenkins, ISBN 0712653821; for general info on radioactive ceramics, see Radon, Health and Natural Hazards, Editors: G.K. Gillmore, F.E. Perrier, R.G.M. Crockett, pp. 50-52, 2018, Geological Society of London, ISBN 1786203081, 9781786203083, google books

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 17:48, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The image is suitably licensed, the hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. However I am not enthralled by the hook; the term "art pottery" is not familiar to me, and you seem to have personified it, so the hook is difficult to parse. You could go along with something like ALT1 "... that glazes used in art pottery include one that leaves the pot slightly radioactive?", or something else altogether. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:46, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

H. E. Merritt

Churchill tank
Churchill tank

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 23:05, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

Review by Amakuru:

  • New ☑Y
  • Long enough ☑Y
  • Within policy
    • is neutral ☑Y
    • cites sources with inline citations ☑Y
    • is free of close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism -  Unlikely - I couldn't get Earwig tool to work right now, but looking at the text and a few sources I see nothing obvious.
  • Hook
    • Fewer than 200 characters (shorter is better) ☑Y
    • interesting to a broad audience ☑Y
    • hook fact is accurate and cited with an inline citation in the article ☒N - The hook fact is seemingly only mentioned in a picture caption and is not directly cited at the moment
    • neutral and does not focus unduly on negative aspects of living people ☑Y
  • Other
    • QPQ – all nominators who have five or more DYK credits must review another article. ☒N - not yet done.
  • Image must
    • be free (no fair use) ☑Y
    • be used in the article ☑Y
    • show up well at small size (100 × 100px) ☑Y

Symbol question.svg Summary: Needs the hook to be cited properly, and a QPQ done, then it should be good to go.  — Amakuru (talk) 00:14, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 5[edit]

Articles created/expanded on March 6[edit]

HP Slate 21

Created by Feminist (talk). Self-nominated at 10:08, 6 March 2020 (UTC).


Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - n
  • Other problems: Red XN - A new hook is needed.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg --evrik (talk) 18:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 7[edit]

George Pechell Mends

  • ... that in the age before photography, drawing skills were a requirement of junior naval officers? Source:http://www.mallgalleries.org.uk/learning/resources/history-marine-art)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Broichmore (talk). Self-nominated at 16:35, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Broichmore, Yeah that is exactly what a QPQ is. You get QPQ when you review a did you know nomination. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 17:41, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - new hook needed that is related to the subject.
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Can be approved after the comments above have been resolved. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 17:07, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

  • @Broichmore: You need to respond to the points raised above, propose a new hook that includes the name of the article, and reformat the references that are bare urls. After that you can ping CAPTAIN MEDUSA so that he can finish the review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Michela Gallagher

Created by Achaea (talk). Self-nominated at 21:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, nominated in time. QPQ done. Article is not negative. Hooks are both concise and interesting. The main hook needs more wikilinks, at least to the two diseases.
  • However, I think the sourcing needs work throughout eg newsletters and ScienceDaily summaries are not considered sufficiently reliable to make claims, particularly relating to medical topics, which must be supported by WP:MEDRS-compliant sources. Given the sourcing quality, there is a problem with making claims and talking about what her company is doing without promotion. Gallagher's research seems highly cited and should be treated in depth in much more reliable sources.
  • The source for the main hook does not seem to meet MEDRS requirements, which would be necessary to talk about a drug for use in humans. Alt1 is supported by a newsletter from Johns Hopkins, which is not sufficiently independent to make a claim.
  • Earwig[13] found some minor overlap with [14] and other sources, which could do with rephrasing.
  • Another problem I see is that the article is rather stub-like, and not fully wikified. It's not always easy to find year of birth and country of birth (if American, why go to UCL?) for living scientists who shun the limelight, but without those key biographical elements it feels less a biography than a career summary and company profile. You should link her Johns Hopkins home page [15], CV [16] and Google Scholar profile [17]. I did find a few tidbits from a brief web browse:
  • She served as Editor-in-Chief of Behavioral Neuroscience 1995–2001 (CV & [18]) -- the latter article has more on her research c. 2001
  • Per her CV, she's also an elected fellow of several societies, which should be included, especially if an independent source can be located.
  • She originally studied fine arts[19]
  • She was one of the first two women to graduate from Colgate University and was the first woman to get a PhD there.[20] (and above)
  • Past Chair of Johns Hopkins Department of Psychological and Brain Science & Vice Provost of Academic Affairs and Faculty for 4 yrs (as above)
Espresso Addict (talk) 10:32, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Espresso Addict: Thanks for the review, I'll try to address your points asap. I'm don't think WP:MEDRS is really applicable here, because it is about what science she does, rather than saying that the claims are true. I can add her own articles on the studies, but these would not count as secondary sources for the scientist, only for the topic (e.g. can use them in the mild cognitive impairment article). I'm happy to just go with the second ALT though, if you're worried about the first one. Also, all the overlap on Earwig are names of her position or of the prizes she's won, I really cannot rephrase those things, as they are just simply names.
I will have a look of adding in that information, obvious you are also welcome to. However, the article is long enough and a start article, so following the rules of DYK, that shouldn't be a reason to stop the DYK, right? Thanks! Achaea (talk) 11:27, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Espresso Addict: Have added in the information that I could find sources for and a few more medical sources. Achaea (talk) 18:14, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Some very nice suggestions. While they are not necessary for DYK, I have added them because it makes for a very interesting article. Thanks to the original editor for starting this :-) Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 19:36, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Sikkim tea

Temi tea garden, Sikkim, India
Temi tea garden, Sikkim, India

Created by Dishita Bhowmik (talk). Self-nominated at 07:56, 7 March 2020 (UTC).


Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg --evrik (talk) 18:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 8[edit]

Thomas Stephens (historian)

  • ... that Thomas Stephens (1821–75) was the first Welsh historian to employ rigorous scientific methods and did more to raise the standards of the National Eisteddfod than any other Welshman of his time? Source: a. "[Stephens] is generally considered to have been the first Welsh literary critic to adopt a scientific method and to have done more, as an adjudicator, to raise the standards of the National Eisteddfod and to win for it the confidence of scholars, than any other Welshman of his time." Stephens, Meic, ed. (1986). Oxford Companion to the Literature of Wales. Oxford: Oxford University Press. p. 563.
    b. "Stephens was almost the first native Welsh scholar of this century to apply a rigidly scientific method to the study of Welsh history and literature." Thomas, Daniel Lleufer. "Stephens, Thomas (DNB00): Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, Volume 54". Wikisource.
  • Reviewed: 3rd DYK nomination, 1 article reviewed previously

5x expanded by RLO1729 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:45, 12 March 2020 (UTC).


Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The hook could use some revising. Though it is what is said in the article, it seems somewhat wordy.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg --evrik (talk) 17:25, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the review. I tried to find a balance between accuracy and brevity in the hook. I'm not sure how to reword it in less words while providing the same information and remaining true to the sources. Cutting it to include either just the scientific methods or the eisteddfod standards would seem to reduce the overall interest. I'd be grateful for any suggestions please.  ~ RLO1729💬 20:06, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Afşin-Elbistan C power station

Created by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:32, 10 March 2020 (UTC).


Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - n
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - hook does not appear in article
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg --evrik (talk) 17:02, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 9[edit]

Barbara H. Bowman

Created/expanded by Citing (talk). Self-nominated at 21:15, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Long enough, nominated in time, should perhaps be moved to 10th when created (but that might be a timezone issue). No QPQ noted but editor appears not to have any DYK credits. No obvious neutrality problems in the article but unfortunately I think some work is still needed before this is ready for DYK.
  • The hook is concise & interesting to me, but might need a bit of unpacking for the general reader.
  • The source is not cited inline with the fact in the article.
  • Earwig seems completely down at the moment but a spot check found too much similarity to the wording in Ref 1.
  • Despite the length, I'd still characterise the article as a stub. For example, it is missing the timeline of her career -- it jumps from doctorate to death in Life section -- usually there's a position-by-position account with dates. The Life section needs breaking up, and the honours part moving to Legacy or under Awards and honors.
  • There are also major problems with the sourcing. Most of the Research career section is not sourced, or sourced only to primary sources. Most of the material in the infobox also needs a source.
  • Full details needed for refs 1 (not clear from pages that it is just the legend to the cover), 2, 3
Espresso Addict (talk) 05:04, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the review Espresso Addict (talk · contribs). Most of the material is based off of the citation from the AJHG cover story as it's the most thorough source on her life. The scientific references are to add context to the experiments that she carried out (the timeline of her research is based off of the AJHG citation) rather than as primary sources for the biography. I don't know how much more I could add to this article however as she died before the internet really took off and I don't have access to local newspapers and archives which would probably have more about her. If that's not sufficient for a DYK entry then I understand.Citing (talk) 17:49, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 10[edit]

St. Kolumba, Cologne

  • ... that the remains of St. Kolumba in Cologne after Wolrd War II bombing, a wall and a statue of Mary, are now part of a chapel within the Kolumba museum? Source: several

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 18:17, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Elisabeth Lindermeier

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nelson House & Rotherhithe Street

Moved to mainspace by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:09, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 11[edit]

Beyond the Stellar Empire (play-by-mail game)

  • ... that Beyond the Stellar Empire was an open-ended play-by-mail game where players could join corporations, alien races, or a space pirate band called Raiders of the Imperial Periphery (RIP)? Source: Stephen Marte, (1987). "Beyond the Stellar Empire". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. March/April 1987 (#23), p. 6.
    • ALT1:... that the play-by-mail game Beyond the Stellar Empire was part of the "stomping grounds" of the genre's top players, allowing them to govern a space colony or join a space pirate band? Source: Stephen Marte, (1987). "Beyond the Stellar Empire". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. March/April 1987 (#23), p. 6.
  • Reviewed: This is my second DYK nomination so I believe I have a grace period of a few nominations before required reviews.

Created by Airborne84 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:24, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

Corporate debt bubble

  • ... that a characteristic of the corporate debt bubble is that one-sixth of all publicly-traded companies in the U.S. do not make enough profit to cover the interest on their own corporate bonds? Source: "Access to low-cost credit helped many companies grow and hire. But it also enabled some that weren’t profitable to survive by repeatedly refinancing their debt. These “zombie” firms, which do not earn enough to cover their interest payments, account for 1 in 6 publicly traded U.S. companies" (Washington Post)

Created by Featous (talk). Self-nominated at 00:41, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough and plenty, plenty long enough. QPQ-exempt (author has no prior DYK credits). The article has a tag on it. ALT0 checks out, is interesting (though might be worth rewording at the front end) and is cited. ALT1 also checks out. @Featous: this article would be ready if not for the "may not represent a worldwide view of the subject" tag up top. Raymie (tc) 22:05, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Open Secrets: India's Intelligence Unveiled

  • ... that of all the memoirs written by intelligence operatives Open Secrets is one of the most vainglorious?
Source: "A good many exposes of the CIA, the FBI and the MI5 and MI6 have been published. None of them, however, was written in the manner Dhar writes. None of the intelligence operators was as vainglorious as he is." (Noorani, A. G. “Intelligence and the Political System.” Economic and Political Weekly, vol. 40, no. 13, 2005, pp. 1330–1333. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/4416397. Accessed 11 Mar. 2020.Copy)

Moved to mainspace by DiplomatTesterMan (talk). Self-nominated at 08:49, 11 March 2020 (UTC).

Oxford Vulgate

Title page of the first volume of the Oxford Vulgate
Title page of the first volume of the Oxford Vulgate

Created by Veverve (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 11 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Veverve, DYK is for material new to Wikipedia. Unfortunately, this nomination is mostly of pre-existing material split off from the Vulgate article: according to the WMFLabs Duplication detector, 3230 prose characters (of a total of 3654) were copied, and none of it was new material created within the past seven days. According to DYK rules, material copied from another article must be expanded to five times its original size, which in this case would require an article containing a minimum of 16,150 prose characters. (The same was true of your other split-off article, Benedictine Vulgate, and why it, too, has been marked as ineligible—the expansion required is prohibitive.) I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings; best of luck with future DYK submissions, where original articles that don't include material from other articles need only a minimum of 1500 prose characters. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:27, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Tamara Levitt

  • ... that Tamara Levitt discovered meditation during an eight-week mindfulness and meditation course she took at an eating disorders centre in Toronto? Source: "An eight-week mindfulness and meditation course she took through Sheena’s Place (a treatment centre for eating disorders in Toronto) deserves some of the credit for her recovery." [21] "According to her website, Levitt discovered mindful meditation during an eight-week course at an eating disorders centre." [22]

Created by Jauerback (talk). Self-nominated at 21:37, 13 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 12[edit]

Darmstädter Ferienkurse

1957 course with Karlheinz Stockhausen
1957 course with Karlheinz Stockhausen
  • ... that the Darmstädter Ferienkurse (1957 course pictured) were initiated in 1946 [as a meeting of composers, performers and philosophers,] to connect German contemporary music to the international scene again, after its suppression by the Nazis? Source: [23]
  • Reviewed: Igor Matovič
  • Comment: Too long, and we could say much more about these legendary courses, Stockhausen, award, impact ...

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk), Grimes2 (talk), and Jerome Kohl (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:34, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 13[edit]

Selin Şahin

  • ... that Selin Şahin is the first women's wheelchair basketball player of Turkey to have been transferred by a foreign country club? Source: "Reggio Calabria: Selin Sahin la prima atleta turca nella storia a varcare i confini del proprio paese per sposare il progetto della BiC" (in Italian) [24]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 09:49, 15 March 2020 (UTC).

It's a Crime (play-by-mail game)

  • ... that players chose their own gang names such as "Killer Penguins", "Molly Maguires", and "Zaphod Beeblebrox" in the play-by-mail game It's a Crime which won Origins Awards in 1986 and 1989? Source: John F. Hainly, (1988). "From Street Punk to Godfather Part 1: The Making of A Mob Boss or "My Son, The Criminal"". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. July/August 1988 (#31), p.8; John F. Hainly, (1988). "From Street Punk to Godfather Part 2: The Struggle for Godfather or "Making Offers You Can't Refuse"". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. September/October 1988 (#32): p. 8.
    • ALT1:... to achieve victory as "Godfather", players had to first succeed as a gang leader before rising to mob boss level in the play-by-mail game It's a Crime which won Origins Awards in 1986 and 1989? Source: John F. Hainly, (1988). "From Street Punk to Godfather Part 1: The Making of A Mob Boss or "My Son, The Criminal"". Paper Mayhem: The Informative Play By Mail Magazine. July/August 1988 (#31), p.6.
  • Comment: Nomination in an under-represented play-by-mail topic — shows the diversity of Wikipedia articles
  • Reviewed: This is my third DYK nomination; I believe I have a grace period of a few nominations before required reviews.

Created by Airborne84 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:39, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Charles Wilkins (writer)

  • Reviewed: 4th DYK nomination, 1 reviewed

Improved to Good Article status by RLO1729 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:35, 13 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 14[edit]

Donal Reid

  • Comment: First sentence of very last paragraph. For April Fools' Day.

5x expanded by Litelad (talk). Self-nominated at 19:26, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. Regarding the hook, this doesn't really fit the description of an April Fools hook, which is that the hook could be read as a double entendre. The language you're using is also inaccurate: she didn't catch fire, her coat did. I suggest writing the hook this way:
  • ALT1: ... that retired Gaelic footballer Donal Reid put out the flames when an elderly woman's coat caught fire in his local church? Yoninah (talk) 18:16, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Sato Project

Grisly, a 'sato' dog, rescued by Joel Brown in Old San Juan resembles a puppy Labrador
Grisly, a 'sato' dog, rescued by Joel Brown in Old San Juan resembles a puppy Labrador
  • ... that Christina Beckles the founder of Sato Project had a "dog allergy requiring weekly injections" while coordinating flights for stray dogs from Puerto Rico to the U.S. for adoption in 2012? Source: [25]
    • ALT1:... that Christina Beckles, the founder of Sato Project, who coordinates travel of Puerto Rican stray dogs to the U.S. for adoption, has a "dog allergy requiring weekly injections"? Source: [26]

Created by The Eloquent Peasant (talk). Self-nominated at 19:18, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Giovanni Antonio Grassi

Giovanni Antonio Grassi
Giovanni Antonio Grassi

5x expanded by Ergo Sum (talk). Self-nominated at 17:48, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

American logistics in the Normandy Campaign

  • ... that of the 1,526,965 US Army servicemen in the UK in May 1944, 459,511 were part of the Services of Supply, which was responsible for American logistics in the Normandy Campaign? Source: Ruppenthal, Logistic Support of the Armies, table on p. 232. ([27])

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 09:32, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 15[edit]

Renée Gilly

  • Reviewed: Laverne Antrobus
  • Comment: The source has the cute fact that she sang Santuzza in the 1000th performance at the house, but it's not really encyclopedic, so not in the article. Sorry, I discovered this article only today, which makes the nom one day late.

Created by Kosboot (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 13:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC).

Calendrical Calculations

Created by David Eppstein (talk). Self-nominated at 22:16, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I find the hook to be interesting, but I think the article needs a bit of a copyedit first. It also has a bit of a promotional tone, with words such as "this book" that need to be revised before the review can process. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
    • @Narutolovehinata5: please explain how referring to the subject of the article, a book, as "this book", is in any way promotional, and in what other shorthand manner I can refer to it instead of repeating its title every single time it is the subject or object of a sentence without you finding it promotional. Also please be specific about any other issues you think might require copyediting rather than merely saying you think it might require copyediting without any hint as to what problems might require copyediting. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:40, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
For example, would there be another way to revises phrases such as One purpose of the book is to provide usable and efficient open software, One of the innovations of the book, and This is primarily a reference book, but can also be read for pleasure by readers interested in this topic? The last example in particular sounds promotional and appears to speak in Wikipedia's voice, when ideally such phrasing should be avoided whenever possible. I also have some concerns about the wording of the part that goes There have been many different calendars in different societies, and there is much difficulty in converting between them... as it appears to speak in Wikipedia's voice when as far as I can tell it should instead be written in such a way that it is clearly attributed to the authors. Perhaps in this case, it could be revised to include words like "According to the authors" or phrasing to that effect? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 16:58, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
It is a description of the audience the book is aimed at. Different books have different audiences: for instance a mathematics book may be intended for amateurs, for undergraduate mathematics student class textbooks, for graduate student classes, for other professional mathematicians in that specialty, etc. Describing the audience of a book is a factual evaluation of the book, not the kind of opinion that needs to be set off with a specific attribution warning the readers that only that one person has the opinion and everyone else should ignore it (in some other cases, reviewers differ as to who would want to read the book, and in those cases, I will include attributions, but this is not one of those cases). As for "many different calendars", this is also a factual, sourced, and easily-sourced statement about culture and society, background for understanding why the book exists. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Wouldn't "Describing the audience of a book is a factual evaluation of the book" count as original research unless there were references supporting it? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 17:28, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
If you mean that it's original research to determine which kinds of conclusions from sources count as factual, then no. If you mean that it would be original research to describe the audience of a book without providing a reference, then yes but irrelevant to this case: the description of the audience is not unsourced. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
In any case, I would really suggest that the article be revised somewhat. I understand that what you're trying to say is that the article is intended for a more technical audience, but speaking as a reviewer who is not well-versed in the topic, it instead looks like an (unintentional) advertisement for the book. This particularly seems to be the case for the "Topic" section: for example, quotes such as One purpose of the book is to provide usable and efficient open software in an area where previous solutions were largely proprietary, incomplete, and buggy, ...a precise and unambiguous way of describing each algorithm and One of the innovations of the book sound like things you'd see in a press release, not an encyclopedia article. Finally, I remain worried about the This is primarily a reference book sentence: although it has a footnote citing a review by William Wynne Willson, he is not mentioned by name in that part. I would suggest revising the sentence to make it clear that it's Wynne Willson's words and not Wikipedia's, lest the article be accused of plagiarism. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 17:28, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Repeating the opinion of a reviewer in different words, with a citation to that reviewer, is so far from "plagiarism" that I have to question your competence. Can I have a new reviewer who is capable of following the DYK rules (none of which have been referenced in this review) and reading articles objectively without attempting to squeeze them into a "this must be an ad" point of view, please? This one seems incapable of allowing any more detailed description than "this is a book" without thinking of it as an ad. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:07, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure what's the problem with simply changing "This is primarily a reference book..." to something like "In his review, Wynne Willson notes that although it is primarily a reference book...", because saying "This is primarily" makes it seem that the sentence is using Wikipedia's voice when in fact it is Wynne Willson's comment. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 18:47, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
When you created the article Back Arrow did you provide a source for the opinion that the subject of the article is an anime series? When you created Takako Tanaka did you clearly state, in the text of the article, that her claim to being a voice actress is merely the opinion of her agency? When you created Sumika (band), to whom did you credit the opinion that the genre of music that it plays is rock? This is exactly the same sort of thing: what kind of book is it? Why should it be subject to different standards than you apply to the articles you write yourself? —David Eppstein (talk) 18:54, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Max C. Starkloff

Max C. Starkloff, M.D.
Max C. Starkloff, M.D.
  • Comment: Timely given the prevalence of social distancing for COVID-19. If you can suggest a more succinct hook, you are welcome.

Created by Peaceray (talk). Self-nominated at 06:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Peaceray, sounds like an interesting guy. I've struck all the hooks that exceed the maximum 200 prose character count (which includes spaces), which leaves ALT2 and ALT3. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:49, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I have removed ALT4, ALT5, & ALT6 hooks to make viewing easier on the eye. Peaceray (talk) 22:06, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Sylvia Rose Ashby

  • ... that Sylvia Rose Ashby was an Australian market researcher who was once threatened with arrest if she did not stop surveying popular opinion on the Second World War? Source: Crawford, Robert (19 October 2019), "A Matter of Trust: The Ashby Research Service and the Business of Market Research", Australian Economic History Review, John Wiley & Sons Australia, Ltd, pp. 8–9, doi:10.1111/aehr.12183, ISSN 0004-8992; citing Ashby, Sylvia (1978). McNair, William A.; Larbalestier, M. E. C. (eds.). Some Reflections on the First Fifty Years of Market Research in Australia 1928–1978. Sydney: Market Research Society of Australia, NSW Division. p. 27.

Created by Chris.sherlock (talk). Self-nominated at 02:34, 15 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 16[edit]

Haroun and the Sea of Stories (opera)

Charles Wuorinen in the 1980s
Charles Wuorinen in the 1980s
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: Sorry, a day late. - We could mention the Fatwa condition of the writer, but I guess the name says enough?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:34, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

Hale Nauā Society

  • ... that King Kalākaua's committee to revive the Hale Nauā secret society consisted of ten women, including Queen Kapiʻolani, and only one man other than himself?

http://evols.library.manoa.hawaii.edu/bitstream/10524/509/JL33209.pdf "Those present at the initial organizing meeting of the Hale Naua on September 20, 1886, were King Kalakaua and Queen Kapi'olani, John T. Baker, Mrs. Ululani Baker, Mrs. Annie Maikai, Mrs. Hannah Kinimaka, Mrs. Hannah Lilikalani and Mrs. Grace Kaahalewai, Mrs. K. Makua, Mrs. M. Kaahu, Mrs. M. Kawelo, and Mrs. K. Keaweluaole."

Created by Maile66 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:37, 16 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 17[edit]

KJSK

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 01:02, 21 March 2020 (UTC).

Svedectvo

  • ... that Slovak periodical Svedectvo claimed that the neo-Nazi Kotleba party "is the first authentic right-wing party to get into parliament and dedicate its program to defending the Christian values of our state"?
    • ALT1:... that the Slovak periodical Svedectvo receives a government subsidy, despite publishing apologist articles defending convicted war criminals?

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 19:32, 17 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 18[edit]

Hyborian War

Improved to Good Article status by Airborne84 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:50, 20 March 2020 (UTC).

Mercedes-Benz AMG Vision Gran Turismo

Created/expanded by Fixer88 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough. New enough. Well written; neutral. Inline citations throughout the article but missing in three areas. I've marked where they are needed. No copyright violations. The hook is ok; the fact that it's the first Vision Gran Turismo is sourced although I needed to re-read the sentence a few times. No QPQ. So, fix the CNs, (and add a QPQ if necessary.) Hybernator (talk) 22:34, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Kirk Deighton SSSI

Great crested newt
Great crested newt

Moved to mainspace by Storye book (talk). Self-nominated at 20:37, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

Shiny Suit Theory

Jay Electronica
Jay Electronica

Created by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 18:58, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

Lil Uzi Vert vs. the World 2

Lil Uzi Vert
Lil Uzi Vert

Created by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 13:58, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

  • @Kingsif: I think that this is actually a great connection! I'll try to cite the Scott Pilgrim influence into the article. I'd like to see both DYKs being run on the same day. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 16:03, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Valery Varfolomeyev

Valery Varfolomeyev and Vladimir Putin
Valery Varfolomeyev and Vladimir Putin
  • ... that Valery Varfolomeyev was personally presented (pictured) with the title of Hero of the Russian Federation by Vladimir Putin? Source in Russian: "On 28 December 2017 Russian President Vladimir Putin presented state decorations to military personnel who distinguished themselves during the operations in Syria...Rear Admiral Valery Varfolomeyev was awarded the title of Hero of Russia." ([30])

Created by Spokoyni (talk). Self-nominated at 12:30, 18 March 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: ????
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Hook is not suitable. It is not surprising or interesting that the president presents an award. buidhe 01:50, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

  • I don't think that's particularly interesting either: it's not unusual to receive a decoration for war service (and most readers won't know that Hero of the Russian Federation is a particularly prestigious award). The question is, what did he do that was meritorious? buidhe 05:14, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg That's a reasonable objection. Withdrawing this nomination. Spokoyni (talk) 08:28, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • How about mentioning the submarine division, or the Syrian mission? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 19[edit]

Silke Bühler-Paschen

Created by AthalGolwen (talk). Nominated by S0793217 (talk) at 21:14, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

Chuck Wilson (USAF U-2 pilot)

Created by Skeet Shooter (talk). Self-nominated at 02:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

Berge equilibrium

  • Reviewed: Exempt from QPQ, but nevertheless I reviewed Disease X

Created by Astrophobe (talk). Self-nominated at 17:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

Democracy Manifest video

  • ... that "Democracy Manifest" is a top Australian viral video and meme? Source: The Guardian "perhaps the pre-eminent Australian meme of the past 10 years". here and YouTube has several postings of the video, and they "have more than one million views each." there
    • ALT1:... that "Democracy Manifest" is an Australian viral video involving bungling police and a succulent Chinese meal? Same source as above and here
    • ALT2:... that

Created by 7&6=thirteen (talk), GreenC (talk), Dream Focus (talk), Lightburst (talk), Talsta (talk), and SpicyMilkBoy (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen () 14:07, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

500 Queer Scientists

  • ... that 500 Queer Scientists are "informally partnered" with 500 Women Scientists? Source: "Though an entirely separate group, 500 Queer Scientists found inspiration and a natural ally in the nonprofit 500 Women Scientists ... these two groups have informally partnered" [31]
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Moved to mainspace by YorkshireLad (talk). Self-nominated at 00:04, 21 March 2020 (UTC).

Archie, Marry Me

Created by Saginaw-hitchhiker (talk). Nominated by JeBonSer (talk) at 22:55, 20 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This is a comment rather than a review (I may review this if I have time, but for now I'm not sure if I can do it). I think a different hook has to be proposed here. The hook as written isn't really a hook, it's a statement of a fact, and it's something that's not going to catch attention among general readers. Having taken a quick look at the lede, I would suggest taking inspiration from the article sections on its production and critical reception; perhaps the fact that the song is inspired by the romance of the artist might work? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:49, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
  • How about this hook?:
  • ALT1:... that the name "Archie" from the song title "Archie, Marry Me" is a fictitious character? Source: "It is a fictitious character, but the situation was a bit of an autobiographical one," said singer Molly Rankin of Toronto’s Alvvays. Rolling Stone. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 06:15, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't think that would work either, song being based on fictional characters is very common. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:00, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
That's a bit vague. Maybe there could be some focus on how the song was produced and written? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:15, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT2 (reworded):... that the song "Archie, Marry Me" was rated as one of the best tracks on several lists of best songs in 2014? JeBonSer (talk | sign) 10:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I think I was thinking more about how the song was influenced by how the song's performers saw that their friends were getting married. The part in the lede that goes Rankin and O'Hanley were romantically linked, and had been collaborating for some time creatively. Then in their mid-twenties, they observed friends quickly being wed with derision. An editor I asked on Discord also suggested that perhaps a hook on how the song begins with bird chirps might also work. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:08, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
I think it's more interesting if we stick to ALT2. What do you think? JeBonSer (talk | sign) 02:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
It really doesn't say much about the song itself, and a similar-enough hook could be made for any other popular song for 2014. I just don't think that direction is going to work out. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:03, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT3... that Archie, Marry Me begins with birds chirping? Source:The song begins with the faint noise of birds chirping,[32]©Geni (talk) 09:11, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Mir Jumla III

  • Reviewed: Shortly

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 04:42, 20 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Royroydeb This nomination needs a source. There also isn't an inline source directly after this claim in the article. Samsmachado (talk) 01:46, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment 16/19 of the refs are to William Irvine (historian), born 1840. And please correct the link to the other, Chandra. Johnbod (talk) 18:20, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

60 Hudson Street, 32 Avenue of the Americas

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 23:18, 19 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 20[edit]

George Dudley

5x expanded by Flibirigit (talk). Nominated by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) at 18:58, 21 March 2020 (UTC).

KTLV

  • ... that Oklahoma radio station KRMC dropped its all-news radio format in part because management felt it did not work for a daytime-only station? Source: [34]

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 00:37, 21 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 21[edit]

Electricar DV4

  • ... that the City of Birmingham operated a class of electric dustcarts? Source: De Boer, Roger F (1990). Birmingham's Electric Dustcarts. Birmingham & Midland Motor Omnibus Trust
    • ALT1:... that an electric dustcart operating in Birmingham continued to run after being hit by a bomb? Source:De Boer, Roger F (1990). Birmingham's Electric Dustcarts. Birmingham & Midland Motor Omnibus Trust. p. 25
    • ALT2:... that there is only one surviving Electricar DV4'? Source:Desmond, Kevin (2020). Electric Trucks: A History of Delivery Vehicles, Semis, Forklifts and Others. McFarland & Company. p. 240

Created by Geni (talk). Self-nominated at 20:37, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Red XN - I like ALT1 best
  • Other problems: Red XN - Maybe can add 'in World War II' to clarify when the bomb incident happened
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg first time reviewer here - so other opinions welcome - i would go for ALT1 with the tweak to add WWII, whilst also noting that the article is only based on two sources Mujinga (talk) 12:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

GirlsDoPorn

  • ... that GirlsDoPorn was in the top 20 most viewed channels on Pornhub before its co-owners and male pornographic actor were charged with sex trafficking by force, fraud and coercion? Source: sex trafficking charges "Pratt, Wolfe and Garcia were charged each with three counts of Sex Trafficking by Force, Fraud and Coercion" top 20 channels "Its ranking on Pornhub hovers around the 20th most popular channel"
  • Reviewed: Burkina Faso at the 2012 Summer Paralympics
  • Comment: A very disturbing topic so please comment sensitively. Looking for an experienced reviewer to check the article is fully WP:BLP-compliant before this goes to the main page. There is precedent that the main page is uncensored and unfiltered.

5x expanded by Bilorv (talk). Self-nominated at 11:11, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

V.M.M. Nair

Created by Aumnamahashiva (talk). Self-nominated at 13:52, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I think if ALT1 is to be used, it will need to be revised as the abbreviations seem to be obscure outside of India. A suggestion I could give could be to mention their names in full instead of just the abbreviations. ALT0 could work on its own, but additional context may need to be provided to let international readers know the importance of the Indian Civil Service. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Ecem Güzel

  • ... that the Turkish female sailor Ecem Güzel, whose mother took out a bank loan to cover the training expenses as she started sailing, managed to get a quota for the 2020 Summer Olympic Games? Source: "... you qualified Turkey for the 2020 Olympics ..." [35], "Evet kızı yelken sporuna gönül veren ve onun için kredi çeken anne benim " (in Turkish) [36]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 12:28, 23 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 22[edit]

Violin Sonata No. 1 (Stanford)

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Graham1973 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 20:14, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Hellmut Stern

Hellmut Stern in 2011
Hellmut Stern in 2011
  • ... that violinist Hellmut Stern (pictured), whose family escaped Nazi Germany to China and Israel, made the first tour of the Berlin Philharmonic to Israel possible? Source: several
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: ... which meant he really wanted to return to Berlin, and worked from 1967 to 1990 on the dream of the tour ...

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:26, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

Pasquinade

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 03:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment half de-merger from Pasquino, & not very well done. The hatnote there still begins "This article is about a genre of anonymous lampooning...." and much of it still is. Johnbod (talk) 18:27, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
  • The new article could be accused of being a WP:POVFORK, because though you claim to have split the literary form to here, leaving the statue there, you left in the other article much stuff that is about the literary form, not the statue, and an assertion that the subject of the article is the literary form. So now we apparently have two articles on the same subject. You began your article as a "split", & have a responsibility to clear up the relevant points at the base article, such as the hatnote, now clearly wrong in at least two respects. You changed redirects, but not debolded them at the original destination. It's very sloppy work, and your responsibility. Odd English (wrong tense etc) in both hooks, btw. Johnbod (talk) 14:53, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
  • IF you think the new article is a POVFORK, you can nominate it for AfD. There was no 'de-merger', because there was no merger in the first place. The 'split' amounted to two sentences or so ([38]); effectively a single ref rescued from the old article. I do not have any responsibility to clean up the mess that is the old article (but in fact I did some c/e to it), and its state has no relevance to the article nominated here. Ping User:BlueMoonset for a DYK-supervisor ruling on this. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm no expert on this (and have no supervisory powers), but I see two potential issues here (though there may be others I'm missing). One is that any material copied from the originating article must be expanded fivefold. That doesn't seem to apply in this case. Another is a bit broader than that but it sounds like it may be an issue here, per WP:DYKSG#D10: If your article contradicts an existing article, the contradiction should be resolved one way or the other before your article is approved. So if Pasquinade contradicts Pasquino, the two must be reconciled. (I took a look at the two hooks, and they do have tense problems.) BlueMoonset (talk) 03:07, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • He bought over a little, & has undoubtedly expanded that x 5. But, apart from leaving a "fork" situation as described above, he failed to bring over stuff , including all or most of the "Cultural legacy" section at Pasquino, which relates to the literary form rather than the statue, or to both. If he'd brought that over, I don't think a x5 expansion could be claimed. Johnbod (talk) 03:34, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I fixed the tense issue (I hope, ping User:Nihil novi for a grammar review, TIA). A lot found at the Paquine article is problematic, there are errors and such. I did not bring it over as I consider most of what's there irrelevant or erroneous. This article about a different topic was written from scratch. There are no contradictions as far as I can tell, the other article just contains useless trivia. Again, fixing that other article is not relevant to what is discussed here. In all my years at DYK I've never seen a criticism 'this article cannot be DYKed because some other article has a problem. This is a DYK for pasquinade, not pasquino --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:26, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • This is nonsense, I'm afraid. The topic of "pasquinade" was very clearly part of Pasquino, indeed the hatnote wrongly claimed that was the only subject. And you did not exactly write it from scratch, you brought over a bit, calling it a split, but leaving a lot of other stuff, changing two redirects from there to the new article. So your subject is now split over two articles. Johnbod (talk) 17:51, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • The trouble with the literary stuff you left at the statue is not that it is a "mess", "problematic", "irrelevant or erroneous", but that it has no references, and if you had brought it over, it would have messed up your x5 count, and needed some referencing. Johnbod (talk) 22:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Well, I have done as you suggest. Johnbod (talk) 14:55, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I looked at the history. IMHO, this isn't a split or a de-merger, or the a copy paste. Pasquino is a statue, while pasquinade is a form of literature. While there is a clear relationship, each article can stand apart from the other. It appears to be new enough, long enough, and it is sourced. I think the prose could use some sprucing up. Piotrus next time I would suggest drafting the article separately and then bringing life. --evrik (talk) 03:39, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Seems good to me but I'd shorten it like this (ping User:evrik): --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:03, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Up from the Ashes (song)

Aberdeen Bestiary phoenix painting
Aberdeen Bestiary phoenix painting

Converted from a redirect by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 23:51, 22 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment What on earth makes you think that is a mosaic??? It's a painted miniature from a manuscript, as linked. Johnbod (talk) 13:56, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
I must've misread somewhere that it was a mosaic. Made a minor tweak. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 14:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Australian Journal of Herpetology

  • Reviewed: KUOP
  • Comment: I like to think this article is pretty juicy so there are probably lots of other decent hooks if anyone has a better one.

Moved to mainspace by Bobamnertiopsis (talk). Self-nominated at 18:49, 22 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 23[edit]

Srećko Albini

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:17, 30 March 2020 (UTC).

LA Monster

Created by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 14:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 24[edit]

Laura Dean Keeps Breaking Up with Me

  • Reviewed: Respiratory droplet
  • Comment: ALT1's probably not allowed since we try not to do stuff about active political campaigns but just in case. Also pictures are available of both Tamaki and Valero-O'Connell for either hook, respectively.

Created by Soulbust (talk). Nominated by Bobamnertiopsis (talk) at 20:32, 26 March 2020 (UTC).

Tanitoluwa Adewumi

  • ...Eight-year-old Tanitoluwa Adewumi won a New York State Chess Championship while he and his Nigerian refugee family were living in a homeless shelter in Manhattan?
    • ALT1:...Eight-year-old Tanitoluwa Adewumi won a New York State Chess Championship while he and his family were living in a homeless shelter in Manhattan seeking religious asylum?
  • Comment: This is the 4th of my 5 "free" nominations

Created by Narky Blert (talk). Self-nominated at 16:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Suggest rearranging the hook as "...Eight-year-old Nigerian refugee Tanitoluwa Adewumi won a New York State Chess Championship while he and his family were living in a homeless shelter in Manhattan?" because "his Nigerian refugee family" reads awkwardly. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:51, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

J. Johnston Pettigrew

J. Johnston Pettigrew in Confederate uniform
J. Johnston Pettigrew
in Confederate uniform
  • Reviewed: Not required

Improved to Good Article status by Hog Farm (talk). Self-nominated at 02:06, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I was wondering if something else could be mentioned about the subject, as I'm not sure either hook appeals to a broad audience. ALT0 could also be revised a bit to give more context as to what Pickett's Charge is, for the benefit of our non-American readers. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:04, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Narutolovehinata5 - Frankly, there's not a whole lot else about to talk about this figure. He was in the lower house of a state-level legislature, wrote an obscure book about Spain, and fought at Gettysburg. I can rewrite ALT0 to give more context about Pickett's Charge, but Gettysburg is the only really important/interesting thing in Pettigrew's life. Hog Farm (talk) 21:09, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I've written ALT2, which is essentially ALT0 but giving context as to what Pickett's Charge is. Hog Farm (talk) 21:13, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I think it's better, but it might be a good idea to ask a second opinion on if ALT2 would work to non-American readers. As someone who does know Gettysburg, it does sound interesting and may help the hook appeal to American audiences, just not so sure about with others with the current wording. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:56, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Ben Sherwood (Holby City)

  • Reviewed: Sony Xperia 1 II
  • Comment: Feel free to alter the hooks or suggest a brand new one!

Created by Soaper1234 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:40, 24 March 2020 (UTC).

Coronavirus recession

  • ... that due to coronavirus recession, almost 80 countries have asked the IMF for help before May 2020? [39] Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Sa.vakilian (talk). Self-nominated at 11:13, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Date and length fine. However there are several problems with the article. It has several citation needed tags and tags on the header. There is also the big problem of the merger proposal which means @Sa.vakilian: it cannot proceed until all tags have been removed. Once the merge debate is ended and the citing is fixed (the citations are a bit messy too I'll add), then ping me and I'll have another look. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
  • The article's title has not been established by reliable sources. As of now, I could not see this article passing. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ) 23:40, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 25[edit]

Anatoliy Mokrenko

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 18:59, 27 March 2020 (UTC).

Lou Vairo

5x expanded by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 23:27, 25 March 2020 (UTC).


1876 Prohibition National Convention

Created by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:49, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

Ude Dil Befikre

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 06:32, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

CasualtyXHolby

Moved to mainspace by JuneGloom07 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 26[edit]

St Augustine's Church, Wrangthorn

Created/expanded by Rcsprinter123 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:55, 26 March 2020 (UTC).

Cheng Lai-king

  • ... that Hong Kong politician Cheng Lai-king has held her seat since its creation in 1994? Source: offline source for 1994; official government website figures for every election since then

5x expanded by CRau080 (talk), Universehk (talk), and Feminist (talk). Nominated by Feminist (talk) at 02:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC).

Col de la Loze, 2019 Tour de l'Avenir

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:27, 27 March 2020 (UTC).

Port Charlotte Town Center

5x expanded by Pokemonprime (talk). Self-nominated at 22:51, 26 March 2020 (UTC).

  • ☑Y Article is long enough (2207 characters), has been 5x expanded according to DYKCheck, 5x expansion started 26 March, nominated same day. Article is within policy and no copyvios
  • Question? Hook is short enough and interesting, but the Newspapers.com source only says that it was not completed, but doesn't mentioned Allied Stores. Do you have another source that mentions Allied Stores bankrupcy?
  • ☑Y QPQ exempt, as 0 previous DYK noms
  • Symbol question.svg Pokemonprime Only issue with with cite for the hook, once this is resolved I am happy to pass this nomination. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:17, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Added sources confirming both Maas Brother's acquisition by Hahn's (predecessor to Allied Stores) and the bankruptcy of Allied Stores. Hope they're good enough. Pokemonprime (talk) 19:01, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Lucien Sève

  • ... that French philosopher Lucien Sève's 1969 work Marxisme et théorie de la personnalité has been translated into 25 languages? Source: [51] (25 languages bit is viewable without subscription)

Created by Joseph2302 (talk) and 唐吉訶德的侍從 (talk). Nominated by Joseph2302 (talk) at 19:28, 26 March 2020 (UTC).

Crip Camp

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 18:51, 26 March 2020 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:
  • New Enough: Green tickY
  • Long Enough: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Please add a brief description of the documentary to the article's lead section, so that readers can understand what it is about.

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - Not especially interesting or well constructed. A hook based on the film's 100% RT rating would probably be easier to grasp for most audiences. Also, it's probably better for the article link to read "Crip Camp" than "2020 documentary film".
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg feminist (talk) 14:20, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

... that the idea to produce Crip Camp, began when the director had a "off-hand comment at lunch"?
@Feminist: Maybe this? ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 17:37, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 27[edit]

Workplace hazard controls for COVID-19

  • Reviewed: Coughs and sneezes spread diseases
  • Comment: Much of the text is closely paraphrased from public domain U.S. government sources, which is within policy, but this text doesn't count towards the 1,500 character limit. However, there is more than 1,500 characters of original text, mainly in the lead and the WHO-sourced text near the end of the article. See DYK rule 2b.

Created by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk). Self-nominated at 01:57, 3 April 2020 (UTC).

N95 mask

  • Reviewed: Leah Lowenstein
  • Comment: Much of the text is closely paraphrased from public domain U.S. government sources, which is within policy, but this text doesn't count towards the 1,500 character limit. However, there is more than 1,500 characters of original text, mainly in the lead and the history section. See DYK rule 2b.

Created by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk), Victorgrigas (talk), and Fuzheado (talk). Nominated by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) at 01:50, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

Naomi Munakata

  • Reviewed: John Early (educator)
  • Comment: COVID-19 victim, but I guess that's not what the hook should say

Created by Fixer88 (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 19:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Kissa Tanto

Created by Premeditated Chaos (talk). Self-nominated at 04:33, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Maria Kahea Beckley

Maria Beckley Kahea
Maria Beckley Kahea

Created by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 02:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Pūloʻuloʻu

Created/expanded by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 05:02, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 28[edit]

Heinz Imdahl

Moved to mainspace by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 09:47, 4 April 2020 (UTC).

Suzette Davenport

  • ... that Suzette Davenport was the first woman to lead Gloucestershire Constabulary in 174 years? Source: "Ms Davenport, 49, was one of four candidates interviewed to head the 2,207-strong constabulary and it will be the first time in the force's 174-year history that a woman has been at the helm." [60]
    • ALT1:... that Suzette Davenport required her officers not to have uncovered beards? Source: "Chief Constable Suzette Davenport has ordered her officers to either cover up their stylish beards or trim them right down so they look more 'professional'." [61]

5x expanded by YorkshireLad (talk). Self-nominated at 20:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

  • The hooks are not ideal. No woman could have led the force for most of those 174 years as there were no women police officers for most of that time. The second might expose her to ridicule and isn't suitable for a living person (or am I wrong?). How about that "senior policewoman Suzette Davenport was responsible for crime and diversity in Staffordshire?" Philafrenzy (talk) 10:21, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Philafrenzy, I don't really like ALT1 either for that exact reason, I just wanted to suggest options. I think the original is fine: it's in the source, and it's a common thing to report when a woman takes a male-dominated role for the first time:
  • "Oxford university has nominated Professor Louise Richardson, a political scientist, as its first ever female vice-chancellor, bringing to an end 785 years of male academic leadership." [62]
  • "Cressida Dick is the new Metropolitan Police commissioner, becoming the first woman to take charge of London's police force in its 188-year history." [63]
and so on. It's also not true that there were no women police officers for most of that time: the first woman to serve with Gloucestershire Constabulary was in 1918. [64] [Note for reviewer: the 174-year fact is no longer in the article, and would have to be restored before that hook could be used. The citation given here for it remains in place.]
I'm not sure I like your proposed hook, sorry: it's undoubtedly a fact from the article, but I'm not sure it's enough of a draw to make you want to read it. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 11:18, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Suggestion: we could have
ALT2: ... that Suzette Davenport was the first woman to lead Gloucestershire Constabulary?
with the same source as for the original hook. I prefer the number of years to be included, but I think the fact that she was the first woman is a more interesting fact that a particular portfolio she held. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 11:25, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
The media may use that formulation but that doesn't stop it being a bit silly. There might have been policewomen but there was no chance of a female chief constable was there? Philafrenzy (talk) 11:39, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Philafrenzy, true, but this feels very subjective. At what point was there a chance? There has to be some way of reporting how long it's taken an organisation to have a woman leading it. (I suspect we're not going to agree on this, and may need to wait for the third opinion of whoever reviews the nomination...) YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 11:43, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
The first point at which there was a chance was probably in the later twentieth century, in other words not very long before it actually happened, thus proving that the credit she deserves is for her appointment to the post not for being a woman doing what no woman could have done much before her anyway. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Philafrenzy, Can you provide evidence for The first point at which there was a chance was probably in the later twentieth century? Like I said, it feels very subjective.
Incidentally (and just to clarify), do you object to ALT2? YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 14:09, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Obviously I don't have evidence as I assume women were not blocked by law from rising to that rank. It's more a matter of social conditions. I have just looked it up and I see it was Pauline Clare in Lancashire in 1995 which I didn't know when I commented earlier and proves my point I think. No I don't object to Alt 2 but it is the reviewer whose opinion you need. Philafrenzy (talk) 18:06, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I know it has to be a reviewer (I've done this before!). But since you objected to the original and ALT1, and that might be taken into account by a reviewer, I thought it was worth getting your opinion. I do see where you're coming from, but I remain unconvinced that it's sufficiently "silly" that it can't be included in the article; on the other hand, as I said before, whether or not it was included in the article is not a point I would have particularly cared about had my preferred choice of hook for DYK not depended on it, or had I been able to think of a better one! Perhaps best just to wait and see what the third opinion of the reviewer is. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 18:16, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
How about "that British police officer Suzette Davenport was responsible for crime in Staffordshire and intelligence in the West Midlands? In the final "quirky" slot". Philafrenzy (talk) 13:32, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Philafrenzy, Oh, I do like that one. :-) If I may, I'll label that as ALT3 for the convenience of the reviewer. YorkshireLad  ✿  (talk) 20:34, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Pierre-Adrien Dalpayrat

Dalpayrat bowl with panthers
Dalpayrat bowl with panthers

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 15:12, 30 March 2020 (UTC).

KKXL (AM)

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:43, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

Tubby Schmalz

  • ... that a Canadian reeve embraced his politically incorrect nickname, Tubby? Jackson, Jonathon (April 26, 2005). "The man behind the Tubby Schmalz Cup". Owen Sound Sun Times. Owen Sound, Ontario. p. B1.
    • ALT1:... that Canadian ice hockey manager Tubby Schmalz reportedly sheltered visiting teams in his hotel during inclement weather? Jackson, Jonathon (April 26, 2005). "The man behind the Tubby Schmalz Cup". Owen Sound Sun Times. Owen Sound, Ontario. p. B1.
    • ALT2:that Ontario Hockey Association president Tubby Schmalz personally interviewed four players to dissuade them from further on-ice misconduct? [66]
    • ALT3:that Ontario Major Junior Hockey League commissioner Tubby Schmalz began the practice of off-duty police officers at games to deter violence? [67]

Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

169th Street station (IND Queens Boulevard Line)

  • ... that before the opening of a new subway line, passengers at the 169th Street station had to wait just to get to the platform during rush hours? Source: NY Times 1987
    • ALT1:... that passengers at the 169th Street station had to wait to get to the platform, prior to the opening of a new subway line? Source: NY Times 1987

Improved to Good Article status by Kew Gardens 613 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 17:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 29[edit]

Angel Voices, Ever Singing

  • ... that the writer of the hymn "Angel Voices, Ever Singing" banned it from being published with a tune by Arthur Sullivan? Source: Lost Chords and Christian Soldiers: The Sacred Music of Arthur Sullivan. SCM Press. p. 78. ISBN 0334049938

5x expanded by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 15:36, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

Arena, Vienna

  • ... that after performing at a squatted slaughterhouse in 1976, Leonard Cohen called it the "best place to be in Vienna"? Source: Quoted in Deutsch-Schreiner, Evelyn (2014). "Austria". In Nagy, Peter; Rouyer, Phillippe (eds.). World Encyclopedia of Contemporary Theatre: Volume 1: Europe. London: Routledge. ISBN 1136118128. (available on googlebooks)
  • Comment: First time nomination

Created by Mujinga (talk). Self-nominated at 10:54, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

Honolulu Volcanics

Diamond Head in Honolulu, part of the Honolulu Volcanics
Diamond Head in Honolulu, part of the Honolulu Volcanics
  • ... that the volcanoes in Honolulu (example pictured) were active within the last 80,000 years, and future eruptions are possible?

Improved to Good Article status by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 10:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

  • comment - i think there are photos which look better at 100x100 in the article, perhaps this one — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mujinga (talkcontribs)
    Aye, that one looks prettier but it's not as indicative - the importance of this volcanic field stems mainly from the fact that it is situated in the middle of Honolulu. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 13:49, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 30[edit]

Laia Manzanares

  • Reviewed: Marian Ciepielowski
  • Comment: There seems to be an error with the preview button but I don't know if that's only happening with this page

Created by Trillfendi (talk). Self-nominated at 23:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC).

General eligibility:

  • New Enough: Green tickY
  • Long Enough: Red XN - the page has 1086 characters (it needs 1,500 characters altogether).
  • Other problems: Green tickY

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg @Trillfendi: Better source needed for the hook. It doesn't mention her name. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:41, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

  • @CAPTAIN MEDUSA: The catch-22 is English sources only describing the video and leaving out the actors whose names appeared in the credits, naturally because they wouldn't be known to the English speaking audience, or on the flip side me not putting Spanish sources there because I don't know if there are Spanish-speaking reviewers (or the much rarer Catalan) for DYK. FWIW, the second source I gave, Insider, said Laia Manzanares starred in the video. under the screenshot. A Spanish source is here. Pitchfork, given on the video article, has a screenshotted picture of her but no name or caption.
I think there is a bug on the statistics page that didn't update the characters after the second edit. The tool I just used said it's 1,135; I assumed it was about 1,600 when I did this page so I will add some more information. I'll do QPQ later today, in the meantime. ⌚️ (talk) 17:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Consider using DYKcheck, far better tool and a time saver. The article still needs the expansion. Thanks. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 03:13, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Snooker world rankings 1988/1989

  • Reviewed: Bikini Porn
  • Comment: Any alternative hook suggestions or suggestions for better phrasing are welcome. I considered putting an ALT1 around Thorburn's penalty and the reason for it, but I wasn't sure if that would be regarded as unduly negative about a living person.

5x expanded by BennyOnTheLoose (talk). Self-nominated at 12:10, 4 April 2020 (UTC).

Alan Cozzalio

  • ... that helicopter pilot Alan "Ace" Cozzalio received 49 medals during his required service in the Vietnam War, and then volunteered to return for another six-month tour? Source: ref2: "In the year and one month he garnered a total of 49 medals", "Then he will return to Vietnam for a voluntary six-month month extended tour of fighting duty"
    • ALT1:... that American Vietnam-era helicopter pilot Alan "Ace" Cozzalio died after a failed heart transplant operation? Source: ref1: Transplant performed April 28, 1993. Transplanted heart defective, passed away early morning April 30, 1993.

Created by MB (talk). Self-nominated at 03:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC).

Francis Rapp

Francis Rapp in 2014
Francis Rapp in 2014
  • ... that the medievalist Francis Rapp (pictured), who taught at three universities in Strasbourg, focused on the history of the city and Alsace? Source: The three institutions are listed, and the titles speak for themselves, I think.
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: VOVID-19 victim

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:56, 3 April 2020 (UTC).

Zygaena loti

Slender Scotch burnet moth on a flower
Slender Scotch burnet moth on a flower
  • ... that populations have been declining of the slender Scotch burnet (pictured), a European moth which lives in dry, lime-rich areas?
  • Comment: Article greatly expanded as part of a WikiEdu class project

5x expanded by NicoleFipps (talk). Nominated by Joshua Stone (talk) at 23:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

  • The name and link should be lower case except for the proper name hence "... the slender Scotch burnet (pictured), a European ..." and the caption should be "Photograph of a slender Scotch burnet moth" ... . SchreiberBike | ⌨  22:03, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Anybody can make such minor changes, which I did (also removed "Photograph of a"). MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 07:37, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Umm al-Amad, Lebanon

The ruins in the 1840s, published in The Holy Land, Syria, Idumea, Arabia, Egypt, and Nubia
The ruins in the 1840s, published in The Holy Land, Syria, Idumea, Arabia, Egypt, and Nubia
  • ... that Ernest Renan abandoned his excavations of Umm al-Amad when he found the ruins (pictured) were only two thousand years old? Source: "Vella, 2000, p.31: "Ernest Renan was there in 1861 but abandoned the excavations he undertook when he noted that the site was of Hellenistic date."
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 21:48, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting site, on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF. The image is licensed but awfully pale, - I think the older one would have more chances to be taken. I like the hook! - A few things in the article (not needed for approval, only the qpq is needed): The word "site" appears a bit too often in close succession. The lead should be a summary of things referenced below, and then needs no references. There are way too many images in the gallery, please select the most relevant. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Blossom Expedition

  • Reviewed: Exempt (5th nomination)

Created by Aranya (talk). Self-nominated at 21:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

Ad Fontes Media

  • ... that according to the Media Bias Chart, news sources on one political extreme or another are much more likely to contain factually incorrect information than ones in the middle?
    • ALT1:... that Vanessa Otero, creator of the Media Bias Chart, believes "extreme sources play on people’s worst instincts, like fear and tribalism, and take advantage of people’s confirmation biases"?
  • Comment: I (Nablais) created the article and Newslinger helped expand it. This is my first submission to DYK.

Created by Nablais (talk) and Newslinger (talk). Nominated by Nablais (talk) at 01:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Thanks for submitting this, Nablais. I'm not sure about the main hook, since it appears to be based on an original reading of the chart itself. Ideally, hooks should be based on content in the article that is supported by a reliable secondary source. ALT1 is fine on reliability grounds, but I wonder if there is a way to paraphrase Otero's words. — Newslinger talk 08:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
    Source for ALT1: One of Otero's reasons for creating the organization was that "many sources people consider to be ‘news sources’ are actually dominated by analysis and opinion pieces," and that these "extreme sources play on people’s worst instincts, like fear and tribalism, and take advantage of people’s confirmation biases."[1]

References

  1. ^ Langlois, Shawn (April 21, 2018). "How biased is your news source? You probably won't agree with this chart". MarketWatch. Retrieved March 30, 2020.

William Ault

  • Reviewed: coming

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 17:43, 30 March 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 31[edit]

Ogden Gas scandal

  • ... that the granting of a franchise to the Ogden Gas Company was referred to as "the most disgraceful act" in the history of the Chicago City Council? Source: "One paper called passage of an ordinance to create a mysterious Ogden Gas Company "the most disgraceful act" in the history of the "disgraceful" Chicago city council." Hogan p. 12

Created by John M Wolfson (talk). Self-nominated at 20:40, 7 April 2020 (UTC).

Benno Bikes

Created by 7&6=thirteen (talk), Lightburst (talk), and Tobeck20 (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen () 03:43, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Addled Parliament

  • ... that by the end of the Addled Parliament, which King James I had hoped would be a "Parliament of Love", the king feared himself in danger of assassination? "Parliament of Love": "The Parliament of 1614". The History of Parliament.
    Assassination: Willson, David Harris (1967). King James VI and I. p. 348.

5x expanded by Tenpop421 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:35, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 1[edit]

Bill Beagan

Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 20:10, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

A Case of Spring Fever

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self-nominated at 18:58, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

Dreeg

  • ... that Dreeg is a card game played with German-suited cards that is described as "a special Franconian form of Sixty-Six"?

    Sources: "Der Nürnberger Dreck. Gespielt wird zu viert mit 24 Karten. Hier als Beispiel die Karten der Farbe Eichel." in Bamberger, Johannes (2012). Schnapsen: die schönsten Varianten, Perlen-Reihe Vol. 639, 13th edition, Verlag Perlen-Reihe, Vienna. p. 70. ISBN 978-3-99006-003-2 and "...spielen wie Rommé, Canasta und einer speziellen fränkischen Form von Sechsundsechzig mit dem schönen Namen Nürnberger Dreck." in Brater, Jürgen (2005). Generation Käfer: unsere besten Jahre. Eichborn. p. 133. ISBN 978-3-82185-607-0
  • Reviewed: to follow shortly

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self-nominated at 12:45, 1 April 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 2[edit]

Clap for our Carers

Thank You collage by Nathan Wyburn
Thank You collage by Nathan Wyburn
  • ... that millions are said to have taken part in the Clap for our Carers mass thank you to those fighting the COVID-19 pandemic in the UK?

Created by Philipwhiuk (talk), GWA88 (talk), Smithr32 (talk), Whispyhistory (talk), Joseph2302 (talk), and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 20:16, 7 April 2020 (UTC).

  • I added an ALT1. It'd be good to run this on a Thursday. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • DYK is currently on 1 set per day, but I agree that if it goes to 2 sets per day, Thursday pm would be best slot. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Is there a way of ensuring that when people click on the image in the article they go straight to the enlarged version showing the individual faces? It currently takes several clicks to get there. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:31, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Paleotempestology

Improved to Good Article status by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 15:44, 4 April 2020 (UTC).

Zoltán Peskó

Zoltán Peskó in 2006
Zoltán Peskó in 2006
  • Reviewed: to come

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:05, 3 April 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Red XN - TBD
Overall: Symbol question.svg The picture doesn't have a great exposure, but it meets the technical requirements. I am not sure that the hook would interest a general audience however, most people don't know what La Scala is or why it's noteworthy to promote contemporary opera there. buidhe 01:46, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

The readers who don't know that La Scala is one of few best-known opera houses in the world, but tremendously traditional (and mostly Italian), will not care about the biography of this man. Can we please attract those who do, + those who at least know what Bluebeard refers to? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for general readers, not just for classical music enthusiasts. The hook needs to be appealing even to those unfamiliar with the subject, and right now I agree with Buidhe that the current hook does not do that. Having the attitude of "please accept this hook because it is written specifically for a niche audience" goes against the spirit of DYK, which really requires the opposite (meaning that the hook needs to be interesting to more people, not to less). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:07, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Repeating: Bluebeard should appeal to a large audience, and then even two of those, it's even quirky. Imagine the person was your grandfather. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
So far, we presented just his name, and almost 10k people were interested. Here, we had the chance to even reach those who may have missed it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Gerda, I hate to keep breaking this to you, but I think you are overestimating how well-known these operas you mention are among general audiences. Most people could probably only name a handful of operas if any at all, and I don't think Bluebird is one of those typical examples that would come to mind. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:45, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
I am sorry to tell you (again?) that you completely misunderstood me, because I didn't mean the operas, but the bloody character. - I can also clearly tell you that I will not take much more of this kind of not wanting to accept the greatest achievements of a subject, only to please our public's ignorance and sensationalism. I can work for ITN 100% of my time, and still have too little. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:15, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
N=1, but I've never heard of Bluebeard before now. Your articles are great, but in my opinion, DYK has a specific function and is not necessarily suitable for all new articles that are created. buidhe 13:10, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
So you have not heard of Bluebeard, someone else may not have heard of Faust, someone else not of Romeo and Juliette, Undine, Macbeth, ... and why can't we teach the audience that cultural things exist, and if they are not interested, so what? Instead of this discussion, I could have created a stub article. How long did we discuss Jessye Norman, and in the end the stats were due just to her smile? I get tired of DYK, did you know. In the old days, we ran 4 sets a day, and had no time for such discussions. If a hook is not for a reader, OMG, there are so many others. Sorry for getting wordy, just explaining that I understand that the normal answer to DYK should be "no" and not "yes": - present what is not yet known. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on April 3[edit]

Venezuelan patrol boat Naiguatá

Venezuelan patrol boat Naiguatá GC-23
Venezuelan patrol boat Naiguatá GC-23

Created by XavierItzm (talk). Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 10:39, 9 April 2020 (UTC).

Indian Military Academy

Source: "On it's first roll were Sam Manekshaw, Smith Dun and Musa Khan, all three of whom went on to become Chief of Army Staff for their respective countries (Indian, Burma and Pakistan). "Rediff
  • Reviewed: Reviewing...

Improved to Good Article status by DiplomatTesterMan (talk). Self-nominated at 11:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC).

Rowridge Valley, Calamintha sylvatica

Created/expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC).

James Harvey Insole

  • Reviewed: 6th DYK nomination, 1 reviewed (Kuiil)

Improved to Good Article status by RLO1729 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:29, 6 April 2020 (UTC).

George Insole

  • Reviewed: 5th DYK nomination, 1 reviewed (Kuiil)

Improved to Good Article status by RLO1729 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:58, 6 April 2020 (UTC).

Earl Dodge

5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:22, 2 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Although this article has previously been as long as 3245 characters, which would mean this doesn't technically count as a 5x expansion, it has been stable at around 1,000 characters for the best part of 10 years, so I'm happy to IAR and accept it as a 5x expansion. The date of expansion, allowing for this, is fine. The hook fact is interesting, but does not appear in the article: the article only states "at his home". Further, the LA Times article suggests that there was disagreement; Hedges claimed there were 7 or 8, Dodge says 25. The Daily Kos is not considered a reliable source, per WP:RS/P. Harrias talk 08:31, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • @Harrias: Thank you for noticing that mistake and for informing me about the Daily Kos stuff. I just made the changes necessary to the page and the hook. - Jon698 Talk 15:14 4 April 2020

Time (Childish Gambino song)

Created/expanded by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 20:34, 3 April 2020 (UTC).

KMEC-TV

Moved to mainspace by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 19:45, 3 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I was wondering if something that could be more relevant for broad audiences could be proposed here. ALT0 doesn't seem to be a hook that could attract non-American football fans and perhaps more specifically Dallas Cowboys fans. ALT1 is cute but isn't spectacular. If nothing else can be said about the station, ALT1 might be good as a "quirky" option, but otherwise perhaps other angles could be looked upon here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:14, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Not a bad idea... I did scrounge up an ALT2, but it's a bit dry. Raymie (tc) 16:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that the owners of Dallas television station KMEC-TV charged that local newspapers did not give their station equal prominence in program listings? p48/49

List of songs recorded by Luis Miguel

Luis Miguel in 2008
Luis Miguel in 2008

Created by Magiciandude (talk). Self-nominated at 19:15, 3 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is long/new enough, hooks are interested and cited inline, sources are reliable (I read Spanish and verified other material too), no obvious copyright violations, QPQ done, MOS layout is appropriate. I did not find any mention of ALT1 in the article (no mention of his age). Also, several references are invoked but not used in the article, which causes an error message in the References. Please fix these and ping me when it is done. Nice job with this article! MX () 01:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
@MX: Fixed the references and striked out the alt. How does it looks now? Erick (talk) 18:43, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

12.38

Converted from a redirect by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 04:04, 3 April 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 4[edit]

Alexandre Maspoli

Weighlifter Alexandre Maspoli in 1908
Weighlifter Alexandre Maspoli in 1908

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC).

Mohsen Shaalan

  • ... that Egypt's Deputy Minister of Culture Mohsen Shaalan was imprisoned for a year in connection with the unsolved theft of van Gogh's Poppy Flowers? Source: "An Egyptian court has found 11 culture ministry employees guilty of negligence, after the theft of a Van Gogh painting from a Cairo museum. The officials include Deputy Culture Minister Mohsen Shalan, and the museum's director." ([73])
    • ALT1:... that 11 members of Egypt's Ministry of Culture, including the Head of the Fine Arts Sector Mohsen Shaalan were convicted of negligence in connection with the unsolved theft of van Gogh's Poppy Flowers? Source: "An Egyptian court has found 11 culture ministry employees guilty of negligence, after the theft of a Van Gogh painting from a Cairo museum. The officials include Deputy Culture Minister Mohsen Shalan, and the museum's director." ([74]

Created/expanded by Jake12195 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:35, 5 April 2020 (UTC).

A Wonderful Life (1951 film)

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 00:02, 5 April 2020 (UTC).

Ringtone (Remix)

  • ALT1: ... that fan-recorded footage of a live DJ set revealed the existence of 100 Gecs' song "Ringtone (Remix)" a month prior to its release?
  • Reviewed: 0x88

Created by Nice4What (talk). Self-nominated at 21:34, 4 April 2020 (UTC).

2003 Carolina Dodge Dealers 400

Improved to Good Article status by MWright96 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC).

Genda Phool

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 17:32, 4 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Nice article...new enough, long enough, no imag, QPQ done, no copyvio issues. Few questions. The release date in source says 26 March??? The source for the hook is based on Badshah himself saying reached 100 million views. Is there another source? How about a hook with India's lockdown in? Whispyhistory (talk) 05:42, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Antonio Crutta

  • ... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Fa alk (talk) and Fa alk (talk). Nominated by Fa alk (talk) at 10:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC).

  • @Fa alk: You're part-way there, in the fact that you actually opened a nomination template. Now you have to put a hook up there after "that ...", and add a link to the source that verifies the hook. — Maile (talk) 21:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 5[edit]

Kalavati Devi

Kalavati Devi
Kalavati Devi
  • Comment: Titodutta's idea to nom this - thanks Tittodutta

Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk) and Titodutta (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 12:34, 9 April 2020 (UTC).

Was mein Gott will, das g'scheh allzeit

Portrait of Albert by Lucas Cranach
Portrait of Albert by Lucas Cranach
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: The often stands for a chorale cantata, the St Matthew Passion, and other cantatas ...

Converted from a redirect by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC).

Ernest Berry Webber

Southampton Civic Centre
Southampton Civic Centre
  • ... that after Ernest Berry Webber won the competition to build the Civic Centre and Guildhall in Southampton (pictured), he had to move there to oversee the construction for ten years? Source: [75]

5x expanded by Cassianto (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 19:49, 8 April 2020 (UTC).

Les Frangines

  • ... that Les Frangines learned to play guitars by watching video lessons on the Internet? Source: "Гитару девушки освоили самостоятельно — по видеоурокам в интернете." (link)
    • ALT1:... that Les Frangines learned to play guitars by watching online video lessons?
    • ALT2:... that the members of the French musical duo Les Frangines learned to play guitars by watching online video lessons?
    • ALT3:... that the members of the acoustic duo Les Frangines learned to play guitars by watching video lessons on the Internet ?

Created by Moscow Connection (talk). Self-nominated at 21:10, 7 April 2020 (UTC).

1938 deportation of Jews from Slovakia

Improved to Good Article status by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 6 April 2020 (UTC).

Camp Jened

Created by Treetopz (talk). Nominated by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk) at 04:49, 5 April 2020 (UTC).

General eligibility:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg --evrik (talk) 16:28, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

  • @Evrik: QPQ done. The hook indeed sounds better. Thanks. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:43, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I can't approve my own hook. --evrik (talk) 16:12, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg While it does say that the man behind the camp is/was "something of a hippie", the statement within the article, used here as the hook, is unsupported by the two references. The thrust of this social experiment seems to be eliminating "stereotypes and labels" which doesn't necessarily translate to "hippie/counterculture" as imagined in the article.Gulbenk (talk) 02:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Yes, that will do nicely. Attach that to the appropriate line in the article, and we should be able to move this along.Gulbenk (talk)
  • Good. I'll sign off on this once you complete the QPQ, which appears to be still pending.Gulbenk (talk) 03:07, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Also, the NYT says: "Distractify, [is] a viral content site that fills Facebook news feeds with feel-good posts built largely on repackaging content from other websites." As such, it likely exercises limited editorial control over content. While a news aggregator might be an acceptable source to Wikipedia, let's not use it here to reinforce this hook. Gulbenk (talk) 03:37, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 6[edit]

Deafula

5x expanded by Secundus Zephyrus (talk). Self-nominated at 02:40, 10 April 2020 (UTC).

Macaranga triloba

  • ... that the tree Macaranga triloba provides food bodies for the ants that defend it?
    • ALT1:... that the tree Macaranga triloba encourages the ants that defend it by providing them with "food bodies"?

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:54, 9 April 2020 (UTC).

The Forgotten Holocaust: The Poles Under German Occupation, 1939-1944

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 09:18, 8 April 2020 (UTC).

Rip Rapson

Rip Rapson
Rip Rapson
  • Reviewed: TBD

Created by Coffeeandcrumbs (talk). Self-nominated at 21:55, 6 April 2020 (UTC).

  • @Nice4What: D6 - DYK is only concerned with Dispute Tags on the nominated article, not all articles it's linked to. An "outdated" tag is not a dispute tag, in any event. — Maile (talk) 00:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

The Brain Leeches

  • ... that film director Fred Olen Ray claims that The Brain Leeches was made for $298.00? Source: [1][2]
    • ALT1:... that in the film The Brain Leeches the alien invaders are represented by rubber ants purchased at a dime store for 19 cents? Source: [1][2]
  • Reviewed: (pending)

5x expanded by Gulbenk (talk) and Ashlark (talk). Nominated by Gulbenk (talk) at 07:14, 6 April 2020 (UTC).

References

  1. ^ a b Fred Olen Ray (1 January 1991). The New Poverty Row: Independent Filmmakers as Distributors. McFarland. p. 176. ISBN 978-0-89950-628-9.
  2. ^ a b Mike Quarles (21 June 2010). Down and Dirty: Hollywood's Exploitation Filmmakers and Their Movies. McFarland. p. 80. ISBN 978-0-7864-6257-5.

Norman K. Brown

  • Reviewed: TBD

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 02:32, 6 April 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Red XN - TBD
Overall: Symbol question.svg Nice new article! buidhe 02:45, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 7[edit]

Composite nationalism

Created by Anupam (talk). Self-nominated at 17:54, 7 April 2020 (UTC).

Jisr Majami

Jisr Majami in 2016
Jisr Majami in 2016
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Onceinawhile (talk) and Huldra (talk). Nominated by Onceinawhile (talk) at 22:12, 7 April 2020 (UTC).

Franz Klarwein