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This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

Cardinal George Pell in 2012
George Pell

How to nominate an item[edit]

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated) in UTC.
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process. Remember, we use UTC dates.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable secondary source. Press releases are not acceptable. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting.
  • Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.

Headers[edit]

  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with (Posted) or (Pulled) in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as (Ready) when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked (Ready), you should remove the mark in the header.

Voicing an opinion on an item[edit]

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.
  • Some jargon: RD refers to "recent deaths", a subsection of the news box which lists only the names of the recent notable deceased. Blurb refers to the full sentences that occupy most of the news box. Most eligible deaths will be listed in the recent deaths section of the ITN template. However, some deaths may be given a full listing if there is sufficient consensus to do so.
  • The blurb of a promoted ITN item may be modified to complement the existing items on the main page.

Please do not...[edit]

  1. add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  2. oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive.
  3. accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN.
  4. comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. oppose a WP:ITN/R item here because you disagree with current WP:ITN/R criteria (these can be discussed at the relevant Talk Page)
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RD: Te Huirangi Waikerepuru[edit]

Article: Te Huirangi Waikerepuru (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): RNZ, 1 News
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Stub, but well referenced.  Nixinova  T  C   01:57, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Weak oppose seems to be limited coverage of his life. What's there is satisfactory but not enough. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 07:33, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment decently referenced but very short article - I will add support if the article were to be expanded a bit by someone who knew more about him Joseywales1961 (talk) 09:12, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - just past stub status. Article is sourced. TJMSmith (talk) 11:42, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Well sourced. But somewhat limited coverage of life, though. TuorEladar (talk) 17:10, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Weak Oppose per TRM. SpencerT•C 22:13, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

RD: Linda Tripp[edit]

Article: Linda Tripp (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The whistleblower in Monica Lewinsky scandal. Non-COVID death. Sourcing issues. Masem (t) 21:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Comment I cleared up three of the CN tags. There may be other details that need in-line sourcing. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 21:54, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose A long way to go with the referencing.-- P-K3 (talk) 22:09, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Lots of CNs. --Rockin 02:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 07:34, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Nipper Read[edit]

Article: Nipper Read (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Sky BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Article a little on the short side, but fully cited and covers all the main points. SchroCat (talk) 11:33, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Coronavirus pandemic in Ecuador[edit]

Consensus will not develop to post. Stephen 05:42, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Article: 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Ecuador (talk, history)
Blurb: Ecuador distributes cardboard made coffins to residents due to the country's struggle in evacuating the dead bodies which are leftover in the streets
Alternative blurb: ​The Government of Ecuador builds emergency cemeteries to dispose the dead bodies to cope with the COVID-19.
News source(s): The Guardian, CNN, Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: I think Ecuador is probably the only country to face this issue. Abishe (talk) 04:02, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose A shortage of affordable and biodegradable coffins or new cemeteries being delayed would be unusual issues to face. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:11, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Every country or locales of countries are dealing with overflowing morgues. Some are able to handle it more humanely, some not. This is all covered under the COVID header banner. --Masem (t) 04:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose - This is not a major thing in any way. Many countries are doing unique things regarding handling the COVID-19 pandemic and its consequences, like Indian railway coaches and British exhibition centres being converted into quarantine sites and so on. The only good reason I can think of for posting this would be that no other country has a coffin shortage (but I don’t know if coffin shortages are notable enough) RedBulbBlueBlood9911 (talk) 04:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
There is no shortage, I invented it for rhetorical purposes. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
InedibleHulk, I meant shortage of ordinary coffins (and sensible places to bury/cremate the deceased, though I didn’t mention that) RedBulbBlueBlood9911 (talk) 05:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Those are ordinary coffins. You're probably thinking of the $5,000+ fancy caskets. You don't expect luxury from the Ecuadorian government (if you're poor, I mean). InedibleHulk (talk) 05:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose good faith nomination. This is truly appalling. But it's a sign of the times. In New York City they are talking about turning one or more municipal parks into mass graves as a temporary measure because the mortuary people are so swamped. Kyrie eleison. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Former Ecuadorian President arrested[edit]

Article: Rafael Correa (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Former Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa is convicted on corruption charges and sentenced to eight years in prison
Alternative blurb: ​Former Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa is sentenced in absentia for corruption charges
Alternative blurb II: ​The National Court of Ecuador sentences former president Rafael Correa and 19 others in absentia on bribery and corruption charges.
News source(s): The New York Times, BBC, France 24
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Quite important as the decision was made by the top court of Ecuador amid the coronavirus struggle in the country. Abishe (talk) 04:02, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Support in principle, this is the point of conviction, though apparently Correa will be able to appeal. I added altblurb2 as there were 19 others also charged (appearing to be part of his administration). There are some CN and similar tags scattered in his article so its not quite ready. --Masem (t) 04:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Most important part: in absentia. Pavlor (talk) 08:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose In absentia, yes, but more importantly his article has two sentences about the issue (in the lead) which doesn't really explain it at all. Black Kite (talk) 12:05, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Per previous two. Murky, prolix. – Sca (talk) 13:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per In absentia issue. Which is very important here – Ammarpad (talk) 17:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment Ignoring the quality/update issues (valid points), the in absentia I don't get. He had his lawyers in court (see NYTimes article) it wasn't like a mock trial, and he has the right to appeal. If he steps foot into the country, he'll be immediately arrested. It seems a fully valid trial result. Compare this to, say, the US trying to put a foreign president on trial without being able to extradite him to the US; that's just more an empty result. --Masem (t) 17:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
    In absentia apparently has different meanings in common law vs. civil law systems: trial in absentia. Given that I strongly advise against putting that phrase in the blurb because it's very likely to give many a false impression. How many average English-speakers can tell you off the top of the head what legal system Ecuador uses? --47.146.63.87 (talk) 23:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
This is a very good point, and enlightening for above commentators, but I don't think it makes a difference. One reason in absentia is shunned in Common Law is that it precludes further action at the moment of conviction; that is, convictions can be meaningless. Before this conviction, Correa would have been arrested. After conviction, Correa could be jailed. Changes to Correa's status don't actually depend on what happens in court; they depend on whether Correa makes himself available. Traditionally, ITN has posted convictions because that is the moment when impact in a case is realized, in part because the cases covered are usually Common Law cases. Should the conviction carry no impact, then I can see a reason for posting when sentencing is carried out. If so, perhaps this distinction should make it's way into the ITN instructions.130.233.2.71 (talk) 07:14, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

April 7[edit]

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  • A major blackout is reported in western and southern Libya, according to the General Electricity Company of Libya, which says its control teams are trying to figure out the reason behind the power outage. (Libya Observer)

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RD: Charlotte Figi[edit]

Article: Charlotte Figi (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): kdvr
Credits:
Article updated

Nominator's comments: The subject was 13 when she died. (Sadly, she lived a short life. This is a relatively short article, but it is well sourced) TJMSmith (talk) 14:27, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Delete (thus Oppose) This was a perfectly fine redirect to the story about her wider impact for six years, only got kneejerked to a stub because COVID was briefly suspected, should go back to normal instead. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

RD: Leib Groner[edit]

Article: Leib Groner (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The Yeshiva World
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: COVID-19 related, longtime secretary of the Lubavitcher rebbe 73.81.116.34 (talk) 21:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

RD: Allen Garfield[edit]

Article: Allen Garfield (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): THR
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Actor, death from COVID related complications. Needs filmology sourcing. Masem (t) 04:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: John Prine[edit]

Article: John Prine (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Rolling Stone
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Notable singer/songwriter KConWiki (talk) 02:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose Terrible referencing. Stephen 02:34, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Comment: Working on improving references, let me invite interested parties to help. KConWiki (talk) 04:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose still poorly referenced. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 07:58, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support edits have greatly improved the references since this morning. †dismas†|(talk) 20:56, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose still got FOUR citation needed tags, and there are other bits that need addressing too. - SchroCat (talk) 21:01, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Four remaining cn's addressed by adding citations Joseywales1961 (talk) 21:35, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment the additional cn's added since my vote have now also been addressed. Joseywales1961 (talk) 22:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Referencing issues have been fixed and the article is well cited. Jake (talk) 22:43, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted great turnaround on quality. Stephen 23:59, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Yaakov Perlow[edit]

Article: Yaakov Perlow (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The Yeshiva World
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Leading US Haredi rabbi, the Novominsker rebbe, COVID-19 related 73.81.116.20 (talk) 12:10, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Support I made some improvements to the article, including removing dead links and making it more Wikipedia-quality. I hope that I helped! --Rockin 13:16, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support One or two spots that could use a cite but overall it's in decent shape. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Could of inline citation needed's tagged.—Bagumba (talk) 18:40, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Your objections have been fixed. Everything is now supported by a source. Kalimi (talk) 23:42, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Nice article made by Yoninah. Kalimi (talk) 19:37, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Hi, saw myself pinged here. I added some more sources and fixed the citation-needed tags. Yoninah (talk) 20:27, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 23:48, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) Cardinal George Pell's Conviction for Child Sex Abuse is Quashed[edit]

Article: George Pell (talk, history)
Blurb: ​The High Court of Australia unanimously quashes the conviction of Cardinal George Pell for child sex abuse and orders the verdicts amended to acquittal.
Alternative blurb: ​The High Court of Australia quashes the conviction of Cardinal George Pell for child sex abuse and orders his acquittal.
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Probably the biggest legal case in Australia in the last 30 years. The ruling was unanimous and highly critical of the jury and original trial stating that there was a strong possibility an innocent man was convicted. Given that we posted the original conviction, and assuming article quality, I think we have an obligation to post this. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:37, 7 April 2020 (UTC) Ad Orientem (talk) 00:37, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Support: I agree; this is very clearly notable, and has been updated to note the quashing of the verdict. Is the article good enough, though? This is my first time here, so I'm not sure... Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 01:05, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support though I feel there's probably a bit more reaction to be had on the quashed verdict to be had base on the Guardian's running timeline. But yes, we can post these types of reversals of major cases that we've posted the convictions before. --Masem (t) 01:08, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
I agree and think it would be a good idea to let this develop a bit while the reactions come in and the article is updated. This basically happened within the last hour or two at the most so there is no rush. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:12, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support This case has attracted international attention since the beginning. This major development seems worth posting, especially, as you point out, since the original conviction was posted here. Bnng (talk) 02:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment Not comfortable with seeing Pell described as an innocent man. A large number of people have come forward over the years and claimed he assaulted them, including a couple more only last week. They are unlikely to all be lying. This trial was on only one charge in the end. So, not legally guilty of that charge, but no evidence he is an innocent man. HiLo48 (talk) 02:43, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
    • He is, pending the lower court's submission of the acquittal verdict, is innocent of this crime. And he hasn't been proven guilty of any other crimes, so we're not going to consider him guilty of other crimes that people believe he might be guilty of. --Masem (t) 02:52, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
      • I agree. Just saying that (probably like all of us but more so in his case) he cannot be described as an innocent man. HiLo48 (talk) 02:55, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict) In the Anglo-American legal tradition, a person has an absolute legal presumption of innocence until/unless convicted in a court of law. There were five charges on which he was convicted. All five have been quashed and the High Court has taken the extremely unusual step of stating that there was a serious possibility that an innocent man had been convicted. Of course we are all free to form private opinions. But as a matter of law he is innocent. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:59, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
What exactly is this "moral obligation"? As far as I can see, it's just news.--Jack Upland (talk) 05:41, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
I think the argument, which is fair, is that if we posted a person's conviction at ITN, and that conviction was overturned (and in this case, in such a dramatic manner, quashing is not just a simple overturn), we are obligated per BLP to make sure to post that as well, assuming article quality is to par. --Masem (t) 16:27, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
How far does this obligation extend???--Jack Upland (talk) 23:49, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure I follow the question. If we post at ITN that someone was convicted of a serious crime, and that conviction is later overturned, or in this case actually quashed with not guilty verdicts entered, then I see no "limit" to our responsibility to post that news (assuming article quality is up to scratch). IMO the obligation is first and foremost, moral. But I also believe that the obligation is at least implicit under WP:BLP. Worse, failing to do so could expose the project to accusations of editorial bias. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:32, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
In the same concept, I would say this does not extend beyond BLP. If we happened to post about the conviction against a company (for some reason), and not directly against any individuals, and that was later over turned, I don't think we would be as morally driven by any policy to post the reversal at ITN (in the article on the situation, yes). --Masem (t) 03:42, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
What about a civil case? What about a story that did reputational damage?--Jack Upland (talk) 04:36, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
If we ever posted such a civil case, which would involve fines, and later it was reversed on appeals, we'd do the same. But I have a feeling we'd never post such a civil case, the way things go here at ITN. --Masem (t) 04:55, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support While Wikipedia does not have the "moral obligation" to post anything on ITN, this is a big deal, unlike stuff such as the Delhi hangings. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 05:56, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support purely as we posted the conviction and for no other reason. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:07, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • plus Posted alt1. Will get an image up shortly — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:17, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Mild BLP implications for posting the acquittal if we posted the conviction. WaltCip (talk) 10:40, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm late to this nom, but I agree it's appropriate to post as we covered the conviction. Modest Genius talk 12:23, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support: internationally high-profile case. Also agree with wording of the posted blurb. Blurbs should be for a general audience and avoid jargony words like "quashed". If people want to learn more, that's what the article link is for. --47.146.63.87 (talk) 19:30, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
    Well now someone changed it back. "Quash" is legal jargon that doesn't aid understanding for most people. I think the general public, to the extent they even know the word at all, only knows it means something like "overturn", so why not just use the latter, which is a familiar word? --47.146.63.87 (talk) 22:57, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

April 6[edit]

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(Posted) RD: Eli Velder[edit]

Article: Eli Velder (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The Baltimore Sun
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: New article. Velder died on April 6. Local obituaries were published April 7. TJMSmith (talk) 20:34, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

  • cause of death not give, presumably non-COVID --Masem (t) 00:00, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Not to be too blunt do you have something better than a short form obit (which clearly came from a loved one, not the paper itself). This doesn't pass ITN. Even a statement from one of the Universities he taught at would work. --Masem (t) 21:09, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
    Here you go, from Goucher College link. PotentPotables (talk) 21:33, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
    That works (already posted but just acknowledging) --Masem (t) 00:00, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 23:54, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

RD: Radomir Antić[edit]

Article: Radomir Antić (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

 The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 06:53, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose for now. A major figure in Spanish management, but there are large numbers of uncited paragraphs right now.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:29, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Black the Ripper[edit]

Article: Black the Ripper (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Complex
Credits:

 – TwinTurbo (talk) 23:41, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Weak Oppose Discography needs some referencing. Otherwise article is not in bad shape. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:59, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. The lead needs a bit more about his music career, a couple of cites missing, and as AD Orientem says, more refs in the discog section. After that, good to go.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:06, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment Discography page has been created which is adequetely cited, more info about his music career has been added in the lead section and the article overall has been heavily edited. Good to go? TwinTurbo (talk) 16:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Discog remains partially unreferenced, as well as several refs to primary sources (such as the artist's Apple Music page). GreatCaesarsGhost 18:05, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Added more references, and replaced the apple music references for secondary sources. TwinTurbo (talk) 19:43, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 23:44, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Al Kaline[edit]

Article: Al Kaline (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Detroit Free Press
Credits:

 – Muboshgu (talk) 20:24, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Support, Hi, how are you. Hope fine. I support it, mostly referenced. I'll try to find sources for some gaps, but the gaps don't influence my position. Regards. --CoryGlee (talk) 20:48, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support. Newyorkbrad (talk) 01:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment I was going to post, but there's a couple of outstanding inline CN tags.—Bagumba (talk) 02:37, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support I've resolved the tags.—Bagumba (talk) 07:42, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support too many see also links, but the rest is satis. Good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:05, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • plus Posted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Margaret Burbidge[edit]

Article: Margaret Burbidge (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): New York Times Sky & Telescope
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Astrophysicist who played a key role in developing stellar nucleosynthesis. Died aged 100 after a fall, not COVID-related. Death announced this afternoon. I'm in the process of addressing the {{cn}} tags (most of which I added myself). Modest Genius talk 20:05, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

All tags fixed. Modest Genius talk 21:09, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Willing to help -- I'll try to find some sources, I actually love to source ^_^ --CoryGlee (talk) 20:09, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
    • Support, please cross out my opinion of wiling to help to switch to support, I don't know how to do that. Thank you. --CoryGlee (talk) 21:12, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
      • @CoryGlee: adding a comment with support as you did works for this. If you want to visually strike out your old comment, use <s>[comment]</s>. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 21:18, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 01:16, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) Cyclone Harold[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Cyclone Harold (talk, history)
Blurb: Cyclone Harold (satellite image pictured) impacts the Solomon Islands and Vanuatu, killing at least six people.
News source(s): BBC, Washington Post, RNZ
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Second-most powerful storm on record in Vanuatu with extensive damage reported. At least 6 deaths (21 missing, BBC says all dead tho) from a COVID ferry incident in the Solomon Islands. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 19:11, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Support. Looks ready to good. --Masem (t) 19:34, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support As one who has been recently updating the article, I say it's quite well sourced and everything we can possibly know right now is inside the article. Hurricaneboy23 (Page)
  • Support Im working to expand and tidy up the MH as we speak but otherwise its good to go!.Jason Rees (talk) 20:08, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Definitely the most impactful storm of the season.--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:14, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted Stephen 01:12, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

RD: Jay Benedict[edit]

Article: Jay Benedict (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Guardian
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: US-UK actor. Aliens, Emmerdale. COVID-19. Died 4/4, announced today. Article needs a lot of work. Black Kite (talk) 12:51, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose Too much unsourced material. - SchroCat (talk) 17:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

April 5[edit]

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(Posted) RD: Honor Blackman[edit]

Article: Honor Blackman (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood, The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Actress w/ numerous roles including original UK Avengers TV show but best known as Pussy Galore from Goldfinger. Non-COVID. Several CNs and filmography needs sourcing. Masem (t) 17:02, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose Too much unsourced material. - SchroCat (talk) 17:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
    • My Oppose still stands: there are still several unsourced paragraphs or statements that need sorting. - SchroCat (talk) 08:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Everything seems to be sourced now. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:09, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:14, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Waiting for a few missing citations — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:21, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
@MSGJ: - I think I've sorted all those. Ping me if I've missed any! Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 16:17, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bobby Mitchell[edit]

Article: Bobby Mitchell (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, he became the first black star for the Washington Redskins after they were the last NFL team to integrate. No cause of death yet. —Bagumba (talk) 08:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

RD: Shirley Douglas[edit]

Article: Shirley Douglas (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Canadian actress as well as spouse to Donald Sutherland and mother of Kiefer Sutherland. Non-COVID (pneumonia). Sourcing issues. Masem (t) 23:23, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

(Re-closed) Boris Johnson in intensive care; Raab to lead UK[edit]

Consensus to post will not be forthcoming until something drastic happens. Mjroots (talk) 20:06, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
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Article: Boris Johnson (talk, history)
Blurb: ​British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is admitted to intensive care with COVID-19, the First Secretary of State Dominic Raab assumes leadership.
News source(s): ITV
Credits:
Nominator's comments: UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is hospitalized over 'persistent' coronavirus symptoms

IAmNitpicking (talk) 22:34, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Strong oppose We already rejected when he was diagnosed . If he does die from this, that would likely be a blurb, but not just being put in serious condition to be hospitalized. --Masem (t) 22:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose, per Masem. - SchroCat (talk) 22:45, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. If he is forced to stand down or (God forbid) he should die, then that would be something we would almost certainly cover. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:55, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Reopen based on the development Monday night; Johnson has been moved to intensive care and first secretary Raab is to lead. Kingsif (talk) 19:20, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Still oppose Raab is only in charge temporarily. If Bojo recovers, this is a non-story. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:24, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Unless Raab take over full time, or something more serious happens to Boris. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:26, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Continue to Oppose. Still basically a COVID story and does not need special highlighting. --Masem (t) 19:32, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose - We're not there yet. Let's try and back away from minute-to-minute coverage of COVID-19. It's easy to get swallowed up in the news cycle. --WaltCip (talk) 19:34, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose. I hope we never have to post anything further about this, but now isn't the time to post it. 331dot (talk)`
  • Oppose unless he's officially replaced as PM on a permanent basis, or if he passes away. And reclose. This isn't going to fly.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:48, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose (still). - SchroCat (talk) 19:57, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Wait for something more concrete. This is a breaking story Nigej (talk) 19:59, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support (ec) I still remember where I was when I heard that Kennedy had been shot and this news seems similar in impact. The current blurbs at ITN are all quite stale and unimportant by comparison -- the painting theft was a week ago now and the other blurbs are even older. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:12, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I think there is too much of a rush to close this. Is there any other world leader in intensive care because of Covid 19? Dominic Raab is running the UK now. This is a huge story.-- P-K3 (talk) 20:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
    No, if Boris dies, then we can post. Until then, he's poorly. Next. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 20:24, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
    Pawnkingthree, this is systemic bias in action. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:25, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
    • That phrase, I do not think it means what you think it means. Gamaliel (talk) 21:23, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment What a horrible discussion, he's a human being. I'm not saying the users are horrible, just the discussion. I'm sensitive, pardon me. --CoryGlee (talk) 20:30, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Concur with closure pending further developments. [Prayers for his recovery.] -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:51, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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(Stale) RD: Tim Robinson (cartographer)[edit]

Nominator's comments: Irish artist, writer, cartographer. Honors include an Irish Book Award Literature Medal, election to Aosdána and the Royal Irish Academy. Exact date of birth unknown; COVID-19-related death. 66.226.63.50 (talk) 16:42, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mahmoud Jibril[edit]

Article: Mahmoud Jibril (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Bloomberg
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Former Libyan PM. COVID-19-related death. --CoryGlee (talk) 15:15, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Support Article looks good. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted. --Tone 16:03, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Pentti Linkola[edit]

Article: Pentti Linkola (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Yle, Iltalehti, Ilta-Sanomat
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Finnish environmentalist and writer. Exact date of death unknown, and scarce coverage of announcement in English-language outlets at the moment. Hrodvarsson (talk) 13:37, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

April 4[edit]

Armed conflicts and attacks

Health and environment
Politics and elections
Sports

(Stale) RD: Forrest Compton[edit]

Stale.—Bagumba (talk) 18:29, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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Article: Forrest Compton (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Actor from The Edge of Night and Gomer Pyle. COVID related. Short and needs a bit of sourcing. Masem (t) 03:42, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose career section unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:53, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose Article too small with most of the readable prose being a list of works (as it's not in a table), and not much else about their career.—Bagumba (talk) 12:38, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Tom Dempsey[edit]

Article: Tom Dempsey (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NBC Sports, USA Today
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: COVID-19. American football player who set an NFL record for the longest field goal (63 yards), which stood for over 40 years. —Bagumba (talk) 14:35, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Alexander Thynn, 7th Marquess of Bath[edit]

Article: Alexander Thynn, 7th Marquess of Bath (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Another Covid-19 death. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 11:58, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Support Was just about to nominate this myself. Well written and good quality. Though shouldn't it just be linked as "The Marquess of Bath"? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:04, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - was also going to nominate, but got beaten to it. Mjroots (talk) 12:11, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose support for now. A few CN tags in place and some unsupported material towards the end of the article. I'll sort shortly if no one else does, but my missus has a list of things for me to do in the garden while it's sunny... - SchroCat (talk) 12:42, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment CN tags all gone, and media appearances all sourced. PotentPotables (talk) 13:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support posting full name and title. This is a noble. We should pay all due respect accordingly. WaltCip (talk) 15:55, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Posting, I'll just use the name, we don't add titles. --Tone 16:03, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

(Closed) Grand National[edit]

Consensus to post will not develop. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:02, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
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Article: Grand National (talk, history)
Blurb: ​Potters Corner wins the Grand National which is held virtually because of the pandemic.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated

Nominated event is listed at WP:ITN/R, meaning that the recurrence of the event should in itself merit a post on WP:ITN, subject to the quality of the article and any update(s) to it.
Nominator's comments: There have been virtual races before but this is the first time that it has been the main event Andrew🐉(talk) 22:03, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose should link to 2020 Grand National which is barely a stub. Unlike the template, it's not updated. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 22:12, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose This does not sound like it is an official "result". There have been actual athletes competing in video game equivalents, but no league is yet considering this as equivalent to the actual physical play, and this even more so. --Masem (t) 22:33, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose just a fundraising gimmick. Stephen 22:43, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose A real stretch to call this ITN/R if it’s just a computer-generated version. P-K3 (talk) 22:45, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • No Chance in Hell WrestleMania is objectively realer, for once. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:49, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose. There was no event, this was a simulation of the event. The "Virtual Grand National" is not ITNR. 331dot (talk) 22:52, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

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April 3[edit]

Arts and culture

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

Law and crime

(Closed) Resolute sinks Naiguatá[edit]

Consensus to post will not develop. Stephen 23:30, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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Proposed image
Articles: Venezuelan patrol boat Naiguatá (talk, history) and RCGS Resolute (talk, history)
Blurb: Venezuelan patrol boat Naiguatá (pictured) sinks after ramming RCGS Resolute
News source(s): BBC; CNN; Times;
Credits:

Both articles updated
Nominator's comments: The current blurbs are days old now and so it's time for a new one. This incident had a significant impact! Andrew🐉(talk) 18:00, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose I had to dig to find any WP:RS actually covering this (doing a search for a topic doesn't count, I want to see it featured), the article is stubby and light on details about the incident itself. The owners of Resolute say it was "purposeful" but the Venezuelans haven't confirmed the same and only they know what their captins intent and motivations were. Non-event on a slow news day. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:42, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose on quality, however I think this might be post-worthy if the articles are improved. Probably pretty embarrassing for Venezuela. - Indefensible (talk) 19:00, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose. This kind of thing is surprisingly routine; the sea may be a big place, but the places where shipping wants to be are small. Even US warships—which presumably are equipped with better sensors than anything Venezuela has to offer—regularly collide with commercial shipping (example, example). ‑ Iridescent 19:10, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose so what? The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 22:12, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose. On both significance and article quality. – Ammarpad (talk) 08:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Oppose. This isn't the Titanic. "Boat sinks" isn't really the sort of notable world event that we should be featuring. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment – Interesting, but the only thing notable about it was how weird it was. Consider the source. – Sca (talk) 13:27, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Eric Verdonk[edit]

Article: Eric Verdonk (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Stuff, TVNZ
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Short article, but important information is all there. And not much else so far as I can see Joseph2302 (talk) 19:45, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Support - Seems to meet the requirements. Non-COVID. - Indefensible (talk) 03:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Satisfactory, decently sourced. Spengouli (talk) 18:11, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:12, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Constand Viljoen[edit]

Article: Constand Viljoen (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): News24
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Former South African military general and political leader. LefcentrerightTalk (plz ping) 14:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: Go take a look now. LefcentrerightTalk (plz ping) 17:45, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
All good. Support. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 18:22, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - Fully referenced now. - Indefensible (talk) 17:39, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support - fully referenced. ^_^ ---------- --CoryGlee (talk) 17:44, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 18:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Bill Withers[edit]

Article: Bill Withers (talk, history)
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): AP
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Singer-songwriter for "Lean on Me" and a bunch of other songs. Non-COVID related. Some sourcing gaps but close. Masem (t) 14:38, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Oppose too much unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 14:52, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Noting he did die on March 30 but only now his family made news of it. With rate of RDs, would be buried in the current list. (See WT:ITN for ideas/suggestions for trying to deal w/ situation) --Masem (t) 15:30, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
    Per WP:ITNRD, we should use the announce date in this case.—Bagumba (talk) 16:24, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Nearly all refernced; the remainder should be finished shortly - SchroCat (talk) 18:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Posted to RD Referencing looks complete, nice work. SpencerT•C 22:24, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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